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Re: Denied Illinois FOID card
Posted by v on 1/14/08

    And that is why we vote.


    On 1/14/08, -- wrote:
    > On 1/14/08, Guns wrote:
    >> In the State of Illinois, a judge
    must take a second oath of office.
    Under 705 ILCS 35/2
    >> states, in part, that "The
    several judges of the circuit courts
    of this State, before entering
    >> upon the duties of their office,
    shall take and subscribe the
    following oath or affirmation,
    >> which shall be filed in the
    office of the Secretary of State:
    >>
    >> 'I do solemnly swear (or affirm,
    as the case may be) that I will
    support the constitution of
    >> the United States, and the
    constitution of the State of
    Illinois, and that I will faithfully
    >> discharge the duties of judge of
    ______ court, according to the best
    of my ability.'"
    >>
    >> So your stament is incorrect
    concerning federal constitution,
    because the judge raised his
    > hand
    >> and swore he would protect the
    Federal constitution.
    >
    >
    > As US courts currently interpret
    the 2nd amendment it is not
    applicable to the various states.
    > States may make any laws regarding
    the control of firearms as they see
    fit to. This has always
    > been the case.
    >
    > However a case before the Supreme
    Court this term challenges the long
    held view of the 2nd
    > Amendment as a state right rather
    than a personal right.
    >
    > When our country was formed the
    big concern was that the federal
    government not have absolute
    > power over state governments in
    all matters. The concept of dual
    sovereignty was developed.
    > Certain matters the federal
    government has absolute authority
    over and certain maters are
    > reserved for state control. The
    US Constitution always applies to
    the federal government and
    > usually applies to state
    governments with some exceptions.
    The 7th amendment is one example of
    > where the Constitution does not
    apply to states. The 7th Amendment
    applies to US Federal Courts
    > but not state courts. In State
    court the 7h Amendment does not
    compel a trial by jury in a
    > civil case. The following is the
    7th Amendment:
    >
    > "In Suits at common law, where the
    value
    > in controversy shall exceed twenty
    dollars,
    > the right of trial by jury shall
    be preserved,
    > and no fact tried by a jury, shall
    be otherwise
    > re-examined in any Court of the
    United States,
    > than according to the rules of the
    common law."
    >
    > Now a person might think that all
    courts in the US must give a person
    a trial by jury in a civil
    > matter. Not so! This part of the
    Constitution only applies to the
    federal government not state
    > governments.
    >
    > Likewise the 2nd Amendment only
    applies to the federal government
    not state governments. Dual
    > sovereignty is extremely difficult
    to understand so don't feel alone in
    your misunderstanding.
    > Until the Supreme Court rules
    otherwise, the 2nd Amendment does
    not restrict states from making
    > their own gun control laws.

     
     

 
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