Re: Denied Illinois FOID card

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I think that the guy that says that Illinois is violating their own
Illinois Constitution, by making you obtain a foid card, has a point

On 8/23/07, PA wrote:
> I wouldn’t put it past republicans, nor would I put it past Illinois
> Judicial Inquiry Board to let Schick slide through the system as a
> favor to a friend. Take a look at what’s going on with Former
> Republican Governor George Ryan. He should have been put in prison a
> long time ago, but with political helpers, he is still not serving
> his sentence for racketeering and fraud. Any other common citizen
> would be behind bars right now. I think the point this Hogan guy is
> trying to make is that; this Schick fellow broke the law when he
> didn’t give him a hearing, before they took his guns. I read the
> Illinois law and it dose say that he is entitled to a hearing first
> before they can confiscate those guns; there is no question about
> that. As far as the Constitution goes, Illinois has adopted those
> same rules under the second amendment in the Illinois constitution,
> so the right to bare arms has been infringed. You need to get the
FBI
> to investigate this crime against you; he shouldn’t be allowed to
> escape from committing a crime against your rights.
>
> On 8/22/07, JR wrote:
>> 08/22/2007 Your case may involve a federal question, thus you may
>> be able to file a federal suit against the Judge personally or
>> maybe the TRO state law has not been constitutionally tested yet.
>> If you can show that the judge violated your constitutional or
>> civil rights, or that he discriminated against you for some other
>> reason "under the color of law". Maybe the TRO law in your state
>> is unconstitutional as written or in the way it's dicriminately
>> applied.
>>
>> It's relatively cheap to file a federal suit, if you represent
>> yourself "pro se". But you have to know what your doing. You
>> should consult a local attorney about the specifics about your
>> case. Note that Judges will frequently violate the procedures of
>> even their own states TRO statutes, rules and procedures, because
>> they can and because few people truely challenge them, but file a
>> federal suit and you'll get their attention, but you won't make
>> any friends. Consult a local attorney.
>>
>> As far as buying a firearm, rifle, pistol or shotgun. Unless there
>> is a current/present Protection/Restraining Order (TRO) against
>> you, you may or not pass the Brady background check as the
>> previous writer indicates. Either way, many states provide for
>> private firearms purchases, this may be legal in your case and in
>> your state, consult a local attorney for legal advise.
>>
>> If the judge has committed some sort of "Ethics" violation while
>> adjudicating your case, you may be able to file a complaint with
>> the state bar association. Exp. while a judge probably does not
>> have to provide you information about how you should not proceed
>> in you case, if cannot "lie to you", mislead or provide you false
>> information. Consult a lawyer in your jurisdiction.
>>
>> On 8/22/07, -- wrote:
>>> You will never get anywhere with your judicial conspiracy theory-
>>> -it makes you sound paranoid. Just reapply and see what
>>> happens, that is the best way to challenge a denial. You should
>>> go to a local gun shop and try to buy a cheap hand gun. If you
>>> are denied you will be given the opportunity to discover the
>>> reason and challenge the denial. See 28 CFR 25.1 If you
>>> currently have a TRO or past domestic violence charge you will
>>> not be able to legally own a gun--don't even try.
>>>
>>> BTW The second amendment to the US Constitution does not apply
>>> to states. States may enact whatever gun control they see fit
>>> to. It's possible a state could ban guns altogether but that has
>>> never been tested.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/22/07, Hogan wrote:
>>>> Here is my update on Judge Mitchell K Schick of the Coles
>>>> county court house in Charleston Illinois. Nothing that I know
>>>> has happen to this judge yet he is still judging people, but I
>>>> am still hoping that somebody dose there job in the government
>>>> and will do something about this crime against my rights. I
>>>> found out yesterday that Tony William is the Illinois Judicial
>>>> Inquiry Board chair and legal member; he is from Charleston
>>>> Illinois, born and raised there and he attended school at
>>>> Eastern Illinois University in Charleston Illinois. Mitchell K
>>>> Schick is from Charleston and both men have practice law as
>>>> lawyers in this area. Tony Williams’s son Rick works for the
>>>> Judicial Inquiry Board as well. There are other members from
>>>> the board that have gone to school close to Charleston at the
>>> U
>>>> of I. I would say that that it is quite weird that the Board
>>>> refused to do anything to judge Mitchell K Schick, even though
>>>> I had solid evidence and presented the law to them. They even
>>>> wrote me back and said that they wouldn’t give me a reason
>>> why,
>>>> but they did say that they were not saying that my case did
>>> not
>>>> have merit, just that they were considering the case closed.
>>> So
>>>> you tell me, dose this all sound strange to you? I can’t
>>>> believe that Schick and Williams do not know each other, if
>>> you
>>>> consider they both have ties to Charleston Illinois. All I am
>>>> saying is this is very strange if you ask me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/13/07, NRA MAN wrote:
>>>>> All I can tell you is that, There are People in the
>>>>> government that want to take guns away from the common
>>>>> person. Are rights are beinging violated by these government
>>>>> crooks. Read this: Republican Judge Mitchell K. Schick of the
>>>>> Coles county court house in Charleston illinois, has
>>>>> illegally violated general assembly law 14.5 (a) concerning
>>>>> firearms; he has violated Illinois, and federal
>>>>> constitutional laws and his oath to protect the constitution,
>>>>> which is an act of treason. I have notified the Fbi of this
>>>>> matter. Judge Shick is trying to cover this matter up, hoping
>>>>> it will go away. I have solid evedince documentaion from the
>>>>> Court house, that provides the proof that he illegally seized
>>>>> my two guns without having any reason to do this illegal act.
>>>>> I had no criminal recored anywhere recorded, and he gave me
>>>>> no trial to defend myself in court stated by the law. Judge
>>>>> Mitchell Schick took them before I even had the chance to
>>>>> show up for my court date to defend myself, which is a
>>>>> violation of 14.5 (a) Illinois law. He ordered this action to
>>>>> seize my guns violating every law written to protect the
>>>>> common citezen. Judge Shick is working above the law, and
>>>>> must be accountable for his actions.