Re: Denied Illinois FOID card
Posted by FACTS AND THE LAW on 2/04/09
On 2/04/09, -- wrote: > On 2/04/09, Take Them to Court now wrote: >> The Federal constitution, the Illinois constitution and the Supreme Court of >> the land has said that you, the people of the land, have a right to bare >> arms. If you can’t get a foid card then that is taking away those rights >> under those laws, because you can be arrested for not having one. For any >> police officer, Judge, senator, or other elected official who has swore to >> protect the constitution and doesn’t protect your rights, are in fact >> committing treason and war against the Constitution. These people who >> support the Foid card system have committed treason and need to be brought >> to justice at once. The Senators, who swore to protect the constitution, >> that implemented the Foid card system in the first place and signed it, must >> have criminal charges brought against them now. Any Senator who will not ban >> the Foid card system, is in fact violating their swore office of duty to >> defend the Constitution; with no question about it the Senators, Governor of >> Illinois are violating the recent decision made by the Supreme Court, which >> is the highest court of this land. >> >> Second the State police should be sued as well as the officer in charge and >> his, or her subordinates, who have violated Illinois Foid card act (430 ILS >> 65/5) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-5 which states Foid cards, are to be issued in >> 30 days which the State Police were not complying with the law. The state >> Police should be brought before the court and at a minimum suspend curtain >> officers for knowing they were violating Illinois Foid card act. The NRA >> should be all over this right now, they should have these law breakers in >> court this very day. This is a serious matter and not some joke to be taken >> lightly. The state police should be accountable for falsifying information >> about making allegation about someone’s mental health, without gong through >> professional process, to determine anyone’s mental state, this is slander. >> They do not have that authority to refuse you a foid card without a >> certified doctor’s report stating that you could be a danger to your self or >> someone else. Some un-educated cop, without a medical field degree, dose not >> and I repeat dose not have the qualification, nor the authority to do make >> that decision. >> >> Foid Act >> (430 ILCS 65/) Firearm+Owners+Identification+Card+Act. > > > The above is rubbish. > > If an admission by you or a routine check of records indicates a medical > history incompatible with firearm ownership, it is your burden to show that you > are in fact qualified. A history of drug abuse or mental health problems is > cause to deny an application for a firearm. The Supreme Court has made it > clear that denying firearms to persons with criminal or mental health histories > is not a constitutional problem. Fact one some un-educated cop, that’s had a couple of weeks training cannot make that determination if someone is mentally ill, or not, only a court board, commission or other lawful authority can make that determination Read the Foid Card Act. You said yourself they have to have medical records showing this to be true. I am talking about some cop making this decision on his own and then refusing your card, solely based on your ex-wife saying your nuts, or he doesn’t like your looks. Fact two for the State police to deny your card they can only deny your card by law, if you have been an in- patient at a mental hospital, not an outpatient for anxiety, or such. Fact three the State police have 30 days by law to issue or deny a foid care. That is also stated in the FOID ACT. They are breaking the law and knowing they are violating the act, make it that much more of a crime.
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- Denied Illinois FOID card, 11/17/06, by Denied A Gun.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 11/18/06, by Res Ispa Loquitur.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 5/31/07, by Joe.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/13/07, by NRA MAN.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/22/07, by lj.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/22/07, by lj.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/02/07, by Guy.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/04/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/04/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/04/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/06/07, by Jack.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/06/07, by Lisa.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/06/07, by Lisa.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/09/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/09/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/12/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/12/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/12/07, by Ron.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/19/07, by Aaron Berger.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 8/22/07, by Hogan.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 8/22/07, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 8/22/07, by JR.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 8/23/07, by PA.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 8/23/07, by PA One other thing.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 8/27/07, by Jack.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 8/27/07, by Jack.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/06/07, by Tim.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/26/07, by Hogan.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/28/07, by DILLER.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/28/07, by Ozarks Lawyer.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/28/07, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/28/07, by friend of NRA.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/29/07, by Tracy.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card Oz, 9/29/07, by Prairie Dawg.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/29/07, by friend of NRA.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by Tracy.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by Ozarks Lawyer.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by Tracy.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by friend of NRA.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by one last thought.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by Diller.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/01/07, by Ozarks Lawyer.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card OZ, 10/01/07, by Prairie Dawg.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/02/07, by Treat with Respect.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/02/07, by Razzle.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/05/07, by v.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/05/07, by v.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/05/07, by who cares.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/05/07, by v.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/25/07, by butwhat.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/25/07, by butwhat.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/30/07, by Hawk.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/30/07, by -.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 11/28/07, by Trying to Help.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 12/17/07, by Pac 57.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/09/08, by Hogan 21.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/09/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/12/08, by FOID CARD.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/14/08, by Guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/14/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/14/08, by v.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/15/08, by Guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/15/08, by --.
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- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/16/08, by Guns.
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- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/16/08, by Captain America.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/16/08, by v.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/16/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/16/08, by Res Ipsa Loquitur.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 1/17/08, by v.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/21/08, by RIGHT TO ARMS.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/21/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/22/08, by NIU.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/26/08, by SECTION 22. RIGHT TO ARMS.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/26/08, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/26/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/27/08, by Guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/27/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/27/08, by Guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/27/08, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/27/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by Guns 2.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: The Constitution -- love it or change it, 2/28/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by Guns.
- Re: The Constitution -- love it or change it, 2/28/08, by guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by Guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/28/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/29/08, by Guns.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/29/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/01/08, by Illinois.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/01/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/12/08, by ILLINOIS.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/12/08, by ILLINOIS.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/13/08, by ASTRO.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/14/08, by ILLINOIS.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/15/08, by dser.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/17/08, by lrw.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/17/08, by Kent.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/18/08, by FOID.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 3/19/08, by Concerned.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 4/01/08, by Rudy.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 4/02/08, by Lisa .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 4/02/08, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 4/02/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 4/19/08, by Lisa has a point.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 5/18/08, by Larry .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 5/25/08, by Happy.
- Re: DEPUTY JIM HITE COLES COUNTY ILLINOIS, 6/06/08, by Razor.
- Re: DEPUTY JIM HITE COLES COUNTY ILLINOIS, 6/16/08, by Expert.
- Re: DEPUTY JIM HITE COLES COUNTY ILLINOIS, 6/16/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/27/08, by FOID SYSTEM IS UN-CONSTITUTIONAL .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/27/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/28/08, by FOID SYSTEM IS UN-CONSTITUTIONAL .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/28/08, by Jacky.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/28/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/28/08, by FOID SYSTEM IS UN-CONSTITUTIONAL . .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/28/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/29/08, by FOID SYSTEM IS UN-CONSTITUTIONAL .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/29/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/07/08, by DILLER.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/07/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/07/08, by Greg Holz.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/07/08, by friend of NRA.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/07/08, by paula.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/07/08, by paul a..
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/08/08, by Terrence not Terence.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/09/08, by Jerome Brown.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/09/08, by Jerome Brown.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/11/08, by Steven Pitts.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/11/08, by by paul a. to steven pitts.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/12/08, by nope.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/12/08, by DILLER.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/12/08, by Steven P.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/13/08, by Solo.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/13/08, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/14/08, by Solo.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 7/17/08, by Net.
- Re: DEPUTY JIM HITE COLES COUNTY ILLINOIS, 8/09/08, by Sue .
- Re: DEPUTY JIM HITE COLES COUNTY ILLINOIS, 8/09/08, by --.
- Re: DEPUTY JIM HITE COLES COUNTY ILLINOIS, 8/14/08, by Student.
- Re: likely to be unrightously Denied Illinois FOID card, 10/27/08, by J.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by Take Them to Court now.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by FACTS AND THE LAW.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by --.
- Re: ALU School of Law NOT to Recieve DETC Accreditation NOW, 2/04/09, by NO DETC for ALU , NOT NOW - MAYBE LATER ?.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by FACTS AND THE LAW.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by FACTS AND THE LAW.
- Re: ALU School of Law NOT to Recieve DETC Accreditation NOW, 2/04/09, by ALU and CA Southern JUne 2009 accredition.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by --.
- Re: ALU School of Law NOT to Recieve DETC Accreditation NOW, 2/04/09, by Wait for DETC Before Enrolling at ALU.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/04/09, by WSCL no good.
- Re: WCSL, 2/04/09, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/05/09, by Facts AND THE LAW.
- Re: ALU School of Law - Forget About DETC Accreditation, 2/05/09, by Ultra Expensive -Please Lower Tuition.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/05/09, by --.
- Re: ALU School of Law - DETC Accreditation, 2/05/09, by ALU..........wish them well.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/05/09, by Facts AND THE LAW .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/05/09, by TGA thank god already.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/05/09, by Facts AND THE LAW .
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card for stupidity, 2/05/09, by Lawyer.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 2/05/09, by --.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 6/16/09, by Retired Lawyer cs..
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 9/21/09, by Randy.
- Re: Denied Illinois FOID card, 5/21/10, by corey s..
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