Re: VA has denied "Veterans" the right to own guns

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Paulie, if you were paying attention you'd have seen that Garrett Anderson is
the one I was calling a moron. But if you'd like, I can call you a moron too.

On 1/14/08, Paul Tyler wrote:
> On 1/13/08, v wrote:
>> Very good, very insightfull. Eye opening to say the least. To the responder's
>> as questionair's.
>> So no more reporting by the VA. Very good. Now since there has been no court
>> order? by the feds to remove all those listed on their report cards. Do you
>> tink the F.B.I. will destroy all those records? On their own without being
>> orderd to do so. You can count on it that those records will remain
> regardless
>> of if they can be used, or not.
>> It's hard for those agencys to part with information they have gatherd, that
>> is so valuable in so many ways. Nice to have rights restored. Also nice to
> NOT
>> have your name stored in a govrnmt. data base somwhere. Benien as it may seem.
>>
>>
>> On 1/13/08, -- wrote:
>>> On 1/13/08, Paul Tyler wrote:
>>>> And finally, how do you interpret a court decision/order? What do you
>>>> mean by this?
>>>
>>> Involuntary commitment by court order. This will not include a 48 hour
>>> involuntary commitment for evaluation initiated by police, family or other
>>> non-judicial means unless it results in a court ordered commitment beyond
>>> 48 hrs. If you are found to be a danger to self or society and ordered by
>>> a court to be committed until fit for release, that is a decision/order.
>>>
>>> Also, an involuntary commitment by a court to a drug/alcohol treatment
>>> program will likely be seen as a decision/order. If you voluntarily
>>> commit yourself and are there after diagnosed as a danger to self or
>>> society you can be reported to NICS.
>>>
>>> What the 2007 Act seems to change is the reporting by a government agency
>>> of an individual because of a diagnosis not confirmed by court order or
>>> made during the course of a voluntary commitment to a hospital. In other
>>> words; if a VA shrink says your nuts in his medical records and you
>>> receive benefits but the shrink does not seek an involuntary commitment, a
>>> government agency shall not submit that info to NICS.
>>>
>>> However, the Act does not appear to prohibit private shrinks from making
>>> such reports. So if you see a private shrink you may be reported to
>>> NICS. This Act does not apply to state requirements such as the Illinois
>>> FOID card. A state is free to set its own standards for firearm permits.
>>> Even though you are OK on NICS you may still be denied by state law.
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> I agree with you wholeheartedly. But I will conclude in this matter!
>
> Thank you for your response herein.
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