Re: VA has denied "Veterans" the right to own guns

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On 1/14/08, Prairie Dawg wrote:
> Paulie, if you were paying attention you'd have seen that Garrett Anderson is
> the one I was calling a moron. But if you'd like, I can call you a moron too.
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> On 1/14/08, Paul Tyler wrote:
>> On 1/13/08, v wrote:
>>> Very good, very insightfull. Eye opening to say the least. To the responder's
>>> as questionair's.
>>> So no more reporting by the VA. Very good. Now since there has been no court
>>> order? by the feds to remove all those listed on their report cards. Do you
>>> tink the F.B.I. will destroy all those records? On their own without being
>>> orderd to do so. You can count on it that those records will remain
>> regardless
>>> of if they can be used, or not.
>>> It's hard for those agencys to part with information they have gatherd, that
>>> is so valuable in so many ways. Nice to have rights restored. Also nice to
>> NOT
>>> have your name stored in a govrnmt. data base somwhere. Benien as it may seem.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/13/08, -- wrote:
>>>> On 1/13/08, Paul Tyler wrote:
>>>>> And finally, how do you interpret a court decision/order? What do you
>>>>> mean by this?
>>>>
>>>> Involuntary commitment by court order. This will not include a 48 hour
>>>> involuntary commitment for evaluation initiated by police, family or other
>>>> non-judicial means unless it results in a court ordered commitment beyond
>>>> 48 hrs. If you are found to be a danger to self or society and ordered by
>>>> a court to be committed until fit for release, that is a decision/order.
>>>>
>>>> Also, an involuntary commitment by a court to a drug/alcohol treatment
>>>> program will likely be seen as a decision/order. If you voluntarily
>>>> commit yourself and are there after diagnosed as a danger to self or
>>>> society you can be reported to NICS.
>>>>
>>>> What the 2007 Act seems to change is the reporting by a government agency
>>>> of an individual because of a diagnosis not confirmed by court order or
>>>> made during the course of a voluntary commitment to a hospital. In other
>>>> words; if a VA shrink says your nuts in his medical records and you
>>>> receive benefits but the shrink does not seek an involuntary commitment, a
>>>> government agency shall not submit that info to NICS.
>>>>
>>>> However, the Act does not appear to prohibit private shrinks from making
>>>> such reports. So if you see a private shrink you may be reported to
>>>> NICS. This Act does not apply to state requirements such as the Illinois
>>>> FOID card. A state is free to set its own standards for firearm permits.
>>>> Even though you are OK on NICS you may still be denied by state law.
>>
>>
>> I agree with you wholeheartedly. But I will conclude in this matter!
>>
>> Thank you for your response herein.
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Everyone .... "v" ..... "Prairie Dawg" ....... Thank you for you assistance and
insights and inputs regarding this matter.