Re: Gun Rights Here and Nationally

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Everyone who has not committed a crime

Criminals, regular and government
sanctioned, do not obey the law anyway.

I know this is an old post but I just had to respond:

So the author of this rant really believes that ONLY persons
that have never committed a crime or those who never been
caught should be the only one allowed to keep and bare arms??
Also what is a REGULAR criminal as opposed to a government
criminal?

Does the Poster believe that someone (A citizen of the United
States) that has in fact wandered from the righteous path and
committed some indiscretions, NEVER EVER be allowed to defend
themselves from the tyranny of a corrupt government or that he
or she should never be able to defend their home or personal
property?

These Citizens of this country may have strayed from the right
path for awhile but what of those same people who have really
tried to do the right thing? They work hard all their lives
trying to be productive citizens and stay out of trouble only
to shunned by society as criminals, even after their so called
debt to society has been paid. Most of these people work
minimum wage jobs their whole life because we now have
background checks made available to anyone who has a computer
and for $30.00 can bring up you criminal history, even though
a lot of those sites have erroneous information about the
person they have in their computer database. Employers do the
same thing and it doesn't matter if you have a felony from 20
or 30 years ago, none of these people can look past the fact
that you have a mark on your record. All they see is FELONY,
to them you are just a criminal.

When you are released from prison and parole is done or
probation is finished, shouldn't your rights be restored?
Aren't you suppose to be a citizen once again? Hasn't your
debt been paid? After all that's why you were sent to jail, to
pay a debt to society, right? Why must you have to live with
something like this hanging over your head the rest of your
life?? People make mistakes, some people get caught and some
don't. Some people get a slap on the wrist and others have the
book thrown at them. Most government politicians like The
Kennedy's for example commit crimes and it gets swept under
the rug and they're still able to stay in office. Others are
made to resign but they never have to face charges in
exchange. Normal everyday citizens get caught and they pay the
ultimate price for the rest of their lives.

My point being, everyone who is a legal citizen of the United
State of America should be able to keep and bare arms. If in
fact they do have a criminal history then yes they should be
made to show that they are fully productive citizens that they
have changed their ways and yes they should be given mental
stability tests to be sure they are of sound mind, but they
should not be made to feel that they are any less a part of
this country than anyone else, after all, our fore fathers
were considered criminals by England because we stood against
their tyranny and corruption. That's why we also have the 2nd
amendment, because they wanted to make sure that it would not
happen again.

It is my personal belief that there should be an advocacy
group just for people that have committed felonies just to
make sure that the state and federal governments are not
walking on their rights. I know, you're DUH...that's what we
have lawyers for...most people who need to hire a lawyer can't
afford one. That's where public defenders come in, and I hate
to say it be most of us know that the PD's are over worked and
under paid. The majority of them get so numb from defending
that they don't care anymore and they just want to push
through what they can as fast as they can.

In closing, I want to say that yes, I am a felon. I made
mistakes when I was a young man. I chose the wrong person to
emulate and it got me a police record which can never be
erased. I've worked 3 and 4 jobs all my life to try to make
enough money to raise and school my children. I have always
raised my children to do the right things and try to live
decent lives. I have raised them to be Americans and in doing
so they have both given of themselves to serve this country in
the armed forces. I have always tried to be a good honest
neighbor to people I meet. I always give donations for
children's funds and charities. I have made the time to get
and education for myself and help other adults receive their
basic education skills. I have become a master at martial arts
so I would at least have a chance of defending myself if
someone tried to break into my home and harm my family. I have
passed my skills on to women, and children so that they too
could defend themselves, and yet when someone finds out I have
a police record, the first thoughts and words out their mouth
is you're a criminal. NO, i am not a criminal. I am a person
that made mistakes and have spent my entire adult life trying
to make up for those mistakes. Yet I see people take items,
pencils, paper, ect from the work place because they don't
want to go buy it from the store. Are they criminals?? Not in
their minds because they haven't been caught and charged. Hey,
it's just a pencil, right? How about those of you that eat
grapes in the store and don't pay for them? Not stealing
right? How about those of you that steal the sugar packets
from the coffee house or restaurant? Not stealing right? How
about those of you that lie to your insurance company to make
a claim on your house or car, Not stealing, right? You're all
a bunch of hypocrites in my opinion and for you to continue to
call people like me criminals is just a damn shame. I really
hope you can look yourself in the mirror and convince yourself
that you are a decent person.

On 9/02/12, Deonet wrote:
> Everyone who has not committed a crime against another
> human's body or property should own and learn how to use
> firearms. We are guaranteed the right to bear arms in our
> Constitution to protect ourselves and our nation from
> threats within (Uncle Sam and especially Hillary Clinton
> types with the Obama regime) and without. If you don't own
> a gun, get one now. Clinton is trying to push through a UN
> Gun Ban on an international level despite her oath that our
> Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Yes, people
> are killed by guns every day. What happened in Colorado at
> that movie theater was horrible. Ditto for the shooting of
> the AZ congresswoman. These things and others like it would
> not have happened if there had been other sane, morally
> responsible, gun carrying Citizens on location to put a
> stop to the crazy ones. Criminals and the mentally unstable
> do not obey laws anyway. Criminals, regular and government
> sanctioned, do not obey the law anyway. Do the research.
> Countries with gun bans have higher violent crime rates
> than countries where guns are freely owned by the general
> populace. The best crime deterrents are, for home invasion
> deterrent, owning at least one large dog and the criminals
> knowing that there is a high chance of being shot; for
> situations like general purse snatching, car hijacking,
> etc, a criminal is much less likely to try anything if
> he/she knows that the majority of the populace are gun
> carrying, legally protected people with the right to use
> maximum if not lethal force to defend themselves and their
> property. Look at Switzerland. Personally, all of the
> politicians that are trying to push these gun control,
> registration, and banning laws ought to be lined up in
> front of a firing squad and executed for treason, violation
> of Oath of Office, theft, misappropriation of funds,
> malfeasance, misfeasance, and trading with the enemies.