Posted by The Grt,Grt,Grt, Grandson of Liberty on 11/19/02

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You all (well, some) of you have some valid arguments. This
topic has a way of raising tempers, which leads to comments
and decisions made in the "heat of battle", Which makes for
an un-healty discussion. So lets try to leave emotion at
the door, and use basic Logic. Now....Yes, the World would
be a more serine place without "Guns". On that same note, it
would be a billion times more serine "sans" (without)
Humans, (at least to those at or near the top of the food
chain). But, That is not the case.We are here, and must make
the best of it for the duration. America was "Civilized"
(and i use the term loosely) by people with guns. Even if
all guns were outlawed, we would never be free of them. This
is because not only would you have to remove all Guns, You
would also have to eradicate all Knowledge of there
manufacture AND all the raw materials, I.E:Steel, copper,
sulfer, carbon, etc..used in their manufacture. So even if
we could put all these things on a rock & throw them out
into space. You would still be left with the same thing
..Planet Earth. Excuse my rudimentary analogy, but it is
true. You have all heard the line..."take away our guns and
only criminals will have them", Well Criminals, The armed
forces , Police, And a select Elite. Do you see where im
going with this? Guns, However barbaric you may find them,
are "Equilizers". Basic Logic...You take a large, powerfull
person..put him with a small weak person..Who has the
advantage? Now this is acceptable if the large person is a
benevolent saint and the small one is a sadistic pedophile,
but reverse the roles....Do you see what im getting at here?
Humans will instinctively try to gain an advantage by any
means possible. Instinctivly, that means without conscience
effort. What does that tell you? Try this one... "Total
power corrupts".....Am I getting through? Due to the
duallity of human kind, no-one can take away the balance of
power without what happening?...anyone?....in the harsh
reality of life on earth, one cannot ignore logic without
the possibility of falling victim to their own ignorance
(ignorance is not bliss, by the way) Knowledge is the key,
Education is the power. Use them... A Nation-wide
"concealled carry permit" law is the only Logical answer.Try
it.... if nothing else, you will be amazed at how polite
everyone will become,...... all of a sudden.

Re: Re:#1 Tips on debating a subject, 2/15/04, by v.

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