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    Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting

    Posted by Joel Clyde on 11/23/03

    On 8/28/03, Shmuel Goldstein wrote:
    > A post from today's CNN (edited)
    > -------------------------------------------------
    > Thursday, August 28, 2003 Posted: 4:10 AM EDT (0810 GMT)
    >
    > CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Salvador Tapia returned to the
    > Windy City Core Supply warehouse where he had been fired
    > six months ago and killed six of his former co-workers,
    > police said Wednesday.
    > Tapia, 36, was then shot and killed in the last of three
    > gunbattles with police, said acting police superintendent
    > Phil Cline.
    > Police tried to enter the building, but Tapia came out and
    > fired three shots at the officers, Cline said. Fire was
    > returned. One minute later, Tapia came back outside the
    > building and shot at police again.
    > Finally, after considering the injured victims inside, the
    > Hostage Barricade and Terrorist team was "ordered to make
    > an assault on the building."
    > Inside, authorities maneuvered through a maze of 55-gallon
    > drums, crates and steel containers filled with engine
    > parts. They found Tapia hiding behind the stored parts.
    > "He got up. He had the gun. They ordered him to drop the
    > gun. He refused to drop the gun, and that's when the
    > officer shot him," Cline said.
    > Tapia was found with a Walther PP .380-caliber
    > semiautomatic pistol and at least one extra clip of
    > ammunition.
    > Four of the victims died at the scene. The other three,
    > including the gunman, were taken to hospitals, police
    > spokesman David Bayless said.
    > According to the AP, the victims were identified as
    > business co-owner Alan Weiner, 50; his brother, Howard
    > Weiner, 59, the other co-owner; Howard Weiner's son,
    Daniel
    > Weiner, 30; Calvin Ramsey, 44; Robert Taylor, 53; and Juan
    > Valles, 34.
    > Tapia has been arrested 12 times, Cline said. He has an
    > arrest record dating back to 1989, including counts of
    > domestic battery, gun violations, aggravated assault and
    > driving while intoxicated.
    > "The problem here is easy access to a firearm," Cline told
    > reporters. "Here is someone who never should have had a
    gun
    > that had a gun."
    > ------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > I do not have to make up scenarios dealing with baseball
    > bats, knives, spoons, and tofu.
    >
    > We don't have to look at Nazi Germany, the USSR, or any
    > other either former, or hypothetical countries.
    >
    > The above story is real, it is from today, and it happened
    > in the good 'ole United States of America, alas.
    >
    > Salvador Tapia excercised his 2nd amendment right to bear
    > arms, and so he was able to purchase his gun, in spite of
    > the fact that he was arrested 12 times (!), with a record
    > going back 14 years.
    >
    > The rights of the victims to live were sacrificed on the
    > altar of the 2nd Amendment god.
    >
    > Repeal of the 2nd amendment would not have prevented the
    > police from having their weapons, but we must ask
    ourselves
    > if it would have prevent Salvador Tapia from having his?
    >
    > The US Constitution is not an absolute, divinely ordained
    > set of morals. It is a document made by man, and as such
    is
    > fallible. Fortunately, man can recognize a mistake, and
    fix
    > it.
    >
    > Let's fix the mistake.
    >
    > Repeal the 2nd Amendment now, before more people die.
    >

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 8/28/03, by Shmuel Goldstein.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 11/23/03, by Joel Clyde.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 11/23/03, by Joel Clyde.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 12/12/03, by carpediem.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 2/14/04, by Punchhowzer.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 3/22/04, by Sheila Cohen.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 4/27/05, by Joel Clyde.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 10/15/05, by Bill.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 10/17/05, by Dale.


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