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    Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting

    Posted by carpediem on 12/12/03

    On 11/23/03, Joel Clyde wrote:
    > Okay! We'll dissect this a piece at a time so I can show
    > everyone how this anti-2nd Ammendment propaganda works. Pay
    > attention class!
    >
    > The first thing to notice is that the story comes from
    > Chicago and CNN, both notorious for anti-gun bias, so you
    > can be reasonably sure that it's not the whole story and is
    > written with an anti-gun spin no matter what.
    >
    > The story says Mr. Tapia was fired from the warehouse six
    > months prior to the incident....SIX MONTHS! It sure took him
    > a long time to make up his mind and get a firearm! The
    > logical conclusion: The shooting had nothing to do with his
    > being fired. It just makes the story sound better and they
    > don't have to look any further for a motive.
    >
    > He was killed in the "last" of three gun battles with
    > police...DUH! I thought maybe he might have gotten killed in
    > the first one and fought the other two posthumously! Again,
    > it makes it sound better and diverts attention from the real
    > question: Why were there 3 battles with the heavily armed,
    > assault weapon bearing, SWAT trained and numerically
    > superior Chicago Police Dept? They should have pegged him in
    > the first one! If our military did that bad we'd be in real
    > trouble! I don't think much of their Hostage Barricade and
    > Terrorist Team, being held off twice by an individual with
    > a .380 'pop gun'. For those of you who don't know, the
    > Walther .380 (erroneously described as a 'PP' to make it
    > sound like it's larger battle-proven brethren, the PPKs)is a
    > small 'pocket' pistol with a low-powered cartridge. It's
    > only good point is that it is very concealable. None would
    > purposly go into combat with this caliber if they had a
    > choice of almost anything else! Their original purpose was
    > as a last-ditch back-up weapon, and was a favorite of SS and
    > KGB assasins due to it's low noise, light weight and
    > adaptability for silencers.
    >
    > The article does not speculate about the possible outcome
    > had even one of the employees been armed. Reason: There
    > would not have been 7 victims to report about...only one
    > dead disgruntled ex-employee, and would've called into
    > question Chicago's total ban on handguns to all but police,
    > who were stood off by a lone man with a wimpy little pistol.
    >
    > The article says that deceased Mr. Tapia has been arrested
    > 12 times. Hello!....an arrest is not a conviction and unless
    > you are under a current indictment would not keep you from
    > buying a gun. That's the law...innocent until proven guily,
    > unless Mr.Goldstein is advocating changing that as well.
    > Arrested 12 TIMES!...and no convictions? Doesn't say much
    > for Chicago's Justice System, does it?
    >
    > And where does it say that Mr. Tapia even purchased the
    > pistol in the first place? Answer: Because he probably stole
    > it, maybe even from a police officer's home or car. No law
    > would ever prevent someone from stealing a gun. That's what
    > criminals do...break laws, right?
    >
    > The 'easy access" to a gun that Police Superintendent Cline
    > spoke of is not defined. How was this .380 acquired? Why are
    > we not told? Answer: Because it would demonstrate the total
    > failure of Chicago's super-strict gun control policies, and
    > the ineptitude with which the entire incident was handled by
    > the Chicago Police.
    >
    > Mr. Golsteins comments are equally distorted.
    > Mr. Tapia was not "exercising his Constitutional Right
    > to have a gun" since it is illegal to commit murder, with or
    > without a firearm. Also, it is not stated as to whether Mr.
    > Tapias even had the gun legally in the first place. There is
    > room for much doubt.
    >
    > The right of the victims to live were "sacrificed" by
    > Chicago's paranoid anti-gun Administration that made sure
    > that Mr. Tapia would be attacking unarmed, defensless people.
    >
    > Repeal of the 2nd Ammendment would not have stopped Mr.
    > Tapia from his rampage, since it was already illegal under
    > our current laws. How about we just repeal the 1st
    > Ammendment instead, and then you won't have to read about
    > it? Of course, you might not get to be Jewish anymore should
    > you ever return here, but oh well...it's a flawed document,
    > right?
    >
    > The Constitution, in it's entirety is ABSOLUTE! It has to be
    > or it means nothing! (anything after the 10th Ammendment is
    > an addendum and not part of the original Constitution). The
    > 2nd Ammendment was put in to ensure the continuity of the
    > other nine, as well as the rest of the Constitution, make
    > invasion of America a foolhardy consideration, and to keep
    > our government and ourselves honest.
    >
    > Beware of those who freely enjoy the portions of freedom
    > they use while advocating the removal of yours!
    >
    > "Those who would trade any of their freedoms for any measure
    > of security deserve neither"
    > John Hancock---signitory:
    > Constitution of the
    > United States Of America

    Good Show!!!

    Sombody stick a fork in our liberal freedom hating friend, I
    think he's done :c)

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 8/28/03, by Shmuel Goldstein.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 11/23/03, by Joel Clyde.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 11/23/03, by Joel Clyde.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 12/12/03, by carpediem.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 2/14/04, by Punchhowzer.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 3/22/04, by Sheila Cohen.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 4/27/05, by Joel Clyde.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 10/15/05, by Bill.
  • Re: Seven die in Chicago warehouse shooting, 10/17/05, by Dale.


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