Posted by PV on 3/14/05

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I heard these arguments against guns on another message
board. They seem logical to me.
"Keeping and using arms just keeps political brawls going.
Look at most of Africa for example. They do just what you
say--they fight to protect their homes, families, land,
whatever. But it never gets settled and there's perpetual
slaughter and unrest. It keeps Care and Unicef, etc. very
busy.

"If America has experienced relative peace, as has the rest
of the democratic world, it is because they have put the
guns down and have set up a system for everyone to address
and resolve problems in a fair and civilized way. It's
called creating checks and balances; establishing balance
of power. And our liberty, dear fellow, is not derived from
having a bigger gun with more bells and whistles. Our
liberty is in law . We settle our disputes in a civilized
way on the courtroom floor or the legislative floor--but we
are smart enough to leave the guns out of it.

"As soon as you pick up the gun instead, well--might as
well move to Mogadishu where you'll fit right in. Then you
too can keep the need for relief organizations going, and
expect you and yours to live a much shorter lifespan with
nothing resolved politically."

"Natural rights are something that you have because you are
a human being. I don't think that there is a natural right
to bear arms.

" 'It is interesting to note that the right to arms (either
linked or divorced from duty in a militia) formed no part
of the Universal Declaration of the Rights of Man
promulgated by revolutionary France in 1789, and that it
forms no part of the United Nation's Universal Declaration
of Human Rights or the European Convention for the
Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms
today.'(The Militia and the Right to Arms or How The Second
Amendment Fell Silent, chapter 7 endnote 34)

"So the French, the UN, and the European Convention haven't
recognized that a right to bear arms exists."
http://p078.ezboard.com/fguncontrol4778frm18

200 years ago people had muskets and it was hard to mass
murder people with those. But now people have machine guns
because the AWB was repealed so you have problems with mass
murder. Times have changed.

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