Re: Is putting nuts away still a good idea?

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Ain't that what Hitler said?

On 3/14/05, PV wrote:
> I heard these arguments against
guns on another message
> board. They seem logical to me.
> "Keeping and using arms just keeps
political brawls going.
> Look at most of Africa for
example. They do just what you
> say--they fight to protect their
homes, families, land,
> whatever. But it never gets
settled and there's perpetual
> slaughter and unrest. It keeps
Care and Unicef, etc. very
> busy.
>
> "If America has experienced
relative peace, as has the rest
> of the democratic world, it is
because they have put the
> guns down and have set up a system
for everyone to address
> and resolve problems in a fair and
civilized way. It's
> called creating checks and
balances; establishing balance
> of power. And our liberty, dear
fellow, is not derived from
> having a bigger gun with more
bells and whistles. Our
> liberty is in law . We settle our
disputes in a civilized
> way on the courtroom floor or the
legislative floor--but we
> are smart enough to leave the guns
out of it.
>
> "As soon as you pick up the gun
instead, well--might as
> well move to Mogadishu where
you'll fit right in. Then you
> too can keep the need for relief
organizations going, and
> expect you and yours to live a
much shorter lifespan with
> nothing resolved politically."
>
> "Natural rights are something that
you have because you are
> a human being. I don't think that
there is a natural right
> to bear arms.
>
> " 'It is interesting to note that
the right to arms (either
> linked or divorced from duty in a
militia) formed no part
> of the Universal Declaration of
the Rights of Man
> promulgated by revolutionary
France in 1789, and that it
> forms no part of the United
Nation's Universal Declaration
> of Human Rights or the European
Convention for the
> Protection of Human Rights and
Fundamental Freedoms
> today.'(The Militia and the Right
to Arms or How The Second
> Amendment Fell Silent, chapter 7
endnote 34)
>
> "So the French, the UN, and the
European Convention haven't
> recognized that a right to bear
arms exists."
>
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>
> 200 years ago people had muskets
and it was hard to mass
> murder people with those. But now
people have machine guns
> because the AWB was repealed so
you have problems with mass
> murder. Times have changed.