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Re: Why Nancy Grace Should be Disbarred
Posted by Legal Beagle on 8/13/05
Stan: well, you pitch a valiant effort for "christians" considering your name sound s little Hebrew-ish...no? Jews have all the money and that is because of greed, not work ethic. So deal. On 7/06/05, Laughing in my shoes wrote: > You make me laughm, Stan! Keep up the good work! Yes, Democrats are un-Christian, > most of them. > > Republican in Nacogdoches > > > > On 7/06/05, Stanford J. Schwarzenberg wrote: >> >> Frankly, I like Nanch Grace. I like Dr. Kennedy from Forida, the Presbyterial >> preacher who is always preaching about how the U.S. is going to the dogs. I also >> like Rev. John Hagee (the guy from San Antonio), who has the show on T.V. He is a >> good Republican and preaches a good Republican message. Frankly, Republicans are >> the better Christians. Also, I like Dr. James Dobson and Rev. Pat Robertson. They >> are all Republicans, and, as I say, Republicans make better Christians. They don't >> waste their time worrying over the poor. The poor are poor for a reason: they're >> lazy and won't work. Christians work, so Christians have money. >> >> Stan Schwarzenberg - Mobile >> >> >> On 6/28/05, No Name Necessary wrote: >>> Yes, I can understand this. Nancy Grace isn't a religious leader and does not >>> confess to be one. Her show isn't a religious show. She's a former prosecutor. >>> Again, her show isn't about the bible's view point on the issue, but the legality >>> of the issue. So,if she has a guest on her show who is going to give a religious >>> view point from the bible - she should be able to control by restricting the bible >>> view point. Nancy Grace knows her viewers watch her show not for spiritual >>> enlightment, but what the legal experts will say about the legal issues of the >>> case. Their legal opinion. >>> >>> The Freedom of Speech. For the person who wants to preach about the bible on TV >>> has the right to have their on TV show, as long as their in compliance with the >> law. >>> >>> It's just that simple! >>> >>> On 6/25/05, Lanz wrote: >>>> To: No Name Necessary, >>>> >>>> Exactly !! >>>> >>>> Those that want to hear what the Lord is saying will hear and those that don't >>>> want to hear can cover their ears, but Nancy stop someone from excercising their >>>> right to Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion, can you understand this? >>>> >>>> Free Country >>>> >>>> Freedom of Speech >>>> >>>> Freedom of Religion >>>> >>>> Freedom of Press ... >>>> >>>> ... all these are some of the freedoms we have in America >>>> >>>> Thank God for America, we have the FREEDOM to hear or not and to make our own >>> choices >>>> >>>> Lanz >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/25/05, No Name Necessary wrote: >>>>> Dear Bible Cry Baby: >>>>> >>>>> Grow up! Nancy Grace has the right to tell someone to SHUT UP if she doesn't >>>>> want to hear a bible verse. She knows her "viewers and other guests" are >>>>> watching her show - for the legality of the issues and not for religious >>>>> discipline from the bible on the issues. >>>>> >>>>> You sound like a "young lawyer" who needs to understand that - not everyone >>>>> believes in an ALMIGHT GOD and YOU need to LEARN TO RESPECT - others >>>>> beliefs and rights. I'm NOT saying believe the way they do, but RESPECT, and as >>>>> a lawyer YOU know under the United States Constitution - people have the right >>>>> to believe in God/Religion or NOT. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/24/05, Lanz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I used to like her knowledge and wisdom about the Law in general, but after >>>>>> watching her show tonight where she denied a guess to quote a scripture from >>>>>> the bible, as if she felt threatened by God, I can't do without her truly >>>>>> >>>>>> Without God we are nothing! >>>>>> >>>>>> Because the secret of my success as a Lawyer is my trust in HIM >>>>>> >>>>>> Lanz >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/24/05, Hardy Parkerosn, Atty. wrote: >>>>>>> I am no fan of Nancy Grace's, but I wonder why it took the 11th Circuit >>>>>>> fifteen years to get around ruling on the case she was reprimanded in. >>>>>>> According to the post I am responding to, the "unethical" act or acts took >>>>>>> place in 1990, but the 11th Circuit did not issue its ruling until 1995. >>>>>>> That's incredible to make such a judgment fifteen years after the fact. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HMP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/24/05, DC Attorney wrote: >>>>>>>> Let me guess - you got those stats from Nancy's own website? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I am an attorney, licensed in three states, including GA, and >>>>>>> Nancy >>>>>>>> has one claim to fame that I do not share. She has been reprimanded by >>>>>>>> the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals for unethical behavior as an attorney >>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> 1) "failing to disclose exculpatory evidence to a criminal defendant"; >>>>>>>> and 2) "playing fast and loose with her ethical duties as a prosecutor"; >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> 3) "failed to fulfill her ethical duties as a prosecutor." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> She has also been reprimanded by the Supreme Court of Georgia for >>>>>>> similar >>>>>>>> antics during two other cases, one of which was reversed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe I will print copies of the opinions and forward them to the State >>>>>>>> Bar of Georgia for disbarment proceedings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fancy Nancy should learn that nobody - not even her Peroxidness is above >>>>>>>> the law. As this opinion shows, there is a big difference between being >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> real attorney and prosecuting someone for a traffic ticket. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone who is a booster of Nancy's obviously is not an attorney and is >>>>>>>> deluded by her self-serving and highly inaccurate press. Real attorneys >>>>>>>> behave ethically and honestly, not like FancyNancy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DC Attorney >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://legalethicsforum.typepad.com/blog/2005/05/laura_i_applema.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve been following the Nancy Grace case with much distress. For those >>>>>>>> who haven’t been following the incident, Nancy Grace, the host of a >>>>>>>> epononymously-titled legal show on CNN and CourtTV, was recently >>>>>>>> chastised by the 11th Circuit as having "played fast and loose" with her >>>>>>>> ethical duties as a Fulton County, Georgia prosecutor in 1990. See >>>>>>>> Stephens v. Hall, No. 03-15251 (11th Cir., May 2, 2005). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On her Court TV biography page, Grace lists her perfect record of nearly >>>>>>>> 100 felony convictions at trial and no losses. This record is slightly >>>>>>>> less impressive, however, when you review the 11th Circuit’s decision, >>>>>>>> which, while upholding the conviction, criticizes Grace for failing to >>>>>>>> follow her obligation to disclose information about other potential >>>>>>>> suspects to defense counsel, as well as knowingly using a detective’s >>>>>>>> false testimony that there were no other suspects. And this wasn’t the >>>>>>>> first time Grace was criticized for her unethical behavior as a >>>>>>>> prosecutor. In 1997, the Georgia Supreme Court called her improper >>>>>>>> summations and her withholding evidence from the defense "inexcusable." >>>>>>>> Carr v. State, 267 Ga. 701 (1997). And in 1995, the same court reversed >>>>>>>> one of Grace’s convictions because she "exceeded the wide latitude of >>>>>>>> closing argument" by referring to the defendant’s prior convictions, >>>>>>>> which were not relevant to the case. Bell v. State, 263 Ga. 776 (1994). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to say that achieving victory for >>>>>>>> your client, whether complainant or defendant, must be done ethically. >>>>>>> In >>>>>>>> Stephens, Grace failed to follow her basic ethical obligations to >>>>>>>> disclose relevant information to the defense. This was not just a >>>>>>> mistake >>>>>>>> on Grace’s part, but a purposeful and egregious tactic done to ensure a >>>>>>>> conviction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Grace is completely unapologetic about her actions, saying only that the >>>>>>>> case was one of 100 that she successfully prosecuted. This attitude is >>>>>>>> completely unacceptable, however. The defendant in this case was denied >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> fair trial due to the trickery and deceit of a state actor, which is bad >>>>>>>> enough. But to have that state actor now star on her own legal talk show >>>>>>>> and suffer no consequences? I am hardly the first to suggest this, but >>>>>>>> let me add my name to those calling for Grace’s resignation from CNN. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any lawyer can make mistakes or ethical violations in the heat of trial, >>>>>>>> but Grace’s systemic abuse of her power as a prosecutor brings shame on >>>>>>>> the profession. That we are currently rewarding her with national >>>>>>>> television exposure is distasteful. If she does not resign on her own >>>>>>>> accord, then CNN should take action and remove her itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laura I Appleman >>>>>>>>
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