Re: deadbeat family member
Posted by Carol on 5/01/06
On 4/28/06, Steven wrote: > Dear All: > > I am working at a law firm, but occasionally do some > moonlighting (minor legal work for friends, family). This > is ok with my firm. > > I try not to work with family, but last year my wife's > cousin (a young kid) asked me to write a consulting > agreement that he would use for someone he was working > with, sort of a consultant to procure business for his > webdesign company. I usually charge around $220/hr > (sometimes more, sometimes less), but promised him $150/hr, > and we signed a contract to that effect. I drafted a very > professional agreement (6 pages) for him, but he and the > other party didn't like it (too long, too complicated), and > asked me to modify it. I did so, and went back and forth a > bunch of times to accomodate them. I was asked to delete > various sections (non compete clauses etc), and I > reluctantly did so, but advised him of various issues with > regards to working with consultants. > In all, I spent over 10 hours on this matter. I finally > billed him (months after providing the service, because I > wanted to give the kid a chance to make money), and from a > total of $2400, I billed him $1300, which I thought was a > bargain for 10 hours of work. > Last month he sent me a nasty email stating that he does > not want to pay because he didnt use the complicated > contract, and that he didnt get what he asked for, because > he wanted a 2 page contract. I explained to him that in > order to protect his interest I had to make it longer and > cover all the bases, but he didnt agree, stating that he > has a right to have crap if he asks for crap. > > I'm thinking I'll never get my time's worth, which is fine, > after all it was a lesson for me not work with family > (deadbeats!). But I'd like to close this, and hold my head > high, so I wanted to solicit someone's views: do I ask for > all the money? do I make him understand I'll sue him if he > doesnt pay me? What else would you do? Steven, I've been there myself. Defended my cousin in several criminal cases. She thinks because we're related I should have done it for free. First off, I'd tell him what it actually worked out to and that i'd given him almost 50% off because he was family. As for the "if I ask for crap..." nope, won't fly, it would be malpractice to give him crap, you know it and he knows it. Depending on family relations I would simply ask him if he works for free. Ask him if he buys a car but doesn't drive it, doesn't he still have to pay for it? Then (again depending on how close you family is or how judgment-proof he is) tell him you'll have to resort to the courts to get your money. The alternative: ask him how much he thinks 10 hours of labor is worth and settle for that. Expensive lesson to learn about family and friends. Also, I made the mistake of not sending out monthly statements to a couple of clients and they freaked out when they got the final bill. I had the same reasons you had, wanted to give them time to get the $$ together but that didn't matter, now they say they never agreed to so much, it's unfair, etc. I love the Lincoln saying, a lawyer's time and advice is his stock and trade.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- deadbeat family member, 4/28/06, by Steven.
- Re: deadbeat family member, 5/01/06, by Carol.
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