Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement
Posted by a smith on 10/25/06
To Sharon: As an attorney who deals a lot with mold cases in New York, and whose law form was actually involved in the Phipps Housing case, I assure you that no court in New York ever granted and held a Frye Hearing prior to Judge Shirley Kornreich. I know this the New York Law Journal, who has follwoed this issue very claosely, also knows this. There's a reason why non-lawyers should not comment on areas of the law they know nothing about. Sincerley; Mold litigator in New York A Smith On 10/22/06, Sharon wrote: > Hi All, > I tend to stay off of this board as I understand it is for > attorneys, but I felt it was important for you all to see > this one. The real gist of the situation is how marketing > of false concepts is used in mold litigation. > > Not that anyone intentionally misspoke in the following > article. But somehow, whenever one wants to present within > the media the stance that serious mold induced illnesses > are not occurring, it seems to get broad national media > attention. > > Sharon Kramer > > > New York Times, > > Oct 22, 2206 > > Correction to a Real Estate article > > Re: Mold and NY Frye, Oct 15, 2006 > > "The Your Home column last Sunday, about the dismissal of a > claim that sought to hold a co-op corporation in Manhattan > liable for injuries to residents caused by mold, referred > incorrectly to a "Frye hearing," which was held to examine > scientific links between mold and health problems. Contrary > to what a lawyer in the case stated, this was not the first > Frye hearing in New York; at least one other such hearing > was held in Manhattan in 2001. (Go to Article)" > > They got many letters of complaint to the Editor. Below is > mine: > > > Subject: Another NY Frye hearing over mold.... Just last > month You got punk'd. > Date: 10/16/2006 9:31:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time > From: SNK 1955 > > > Mr. Romano, > > Sorry to bother you again, but it is looking more and more > like you got punk'd by the defense into writing a story > based on a false premise (that this Frye ruling was > significant news because it was the first over the mold > issue in the state of NY). > > In reality, what is significant about this Frye ruling is > that is it novel in it's conclusions from all other NY Frye > rulings over the mold issue. > > It is quite understandable why the defense would want to > use the real estate section of the NY Times to market the > concept that, “This throws a lot of cold water on the > notion that mold is the cause of personal injury,” said Eva > Talel, a Manhattan real estate lawyer. “And while this > isn’t going to be the last word on the subject, the > decision is so comprehensive and well thought out that > other judges are not going to be anxious to rule > differently.” > > As I understand it, ALL other NY Frye rulings have allowed > in testimony of allergy and irritant effects from mold > exposure within an indoor environment. This judge is the > only one who has not. There is your true story! > > Beside the one I already sent to you from 2001, here is > another one from just last month. > > Trust me, as a marketing person, I track this kind of > stufff over the mold issue. You would not be the first > writer to get punk'd into writing a false article over the > mold issue. > > Although, I sincerely hope that now that you know this, you > will make every effort to set the record straight. The > defense attorney you quoted misspoke regarding Frye and the > state of New York. > > "Andrew Brucker, the lawyer who represented the co-op in > the case, said this was the first time a Frye hearing on > mold had been held in New York" > > This is not the first Frye hearing regarding mold within > the state of New York by a long shot. > Frye Hr’g Proceeding at 14-15, Davis v. Henry Phipps Plaza > South, Assocs. (N.Y. Sup. Ct. (Oct. 11, 2001) > > What can I do to help you? > > WR, > Sharon > > Your Home > Court Rebuffs a Suit Linking Mold to Illness > > By JAY ROMANO > Published: October 15, 2006 > Correction Appended > > > Illustration by Tom Bloom > > A DECISION issued last month by a State Supreme Court > justice in Manhattan should allow building owners, > including co-op and condominium boards, to rest a little > easier about potential claims that indoor mold has injured > an occupant of their buildings. > > After a review of more than 1,000 pages of testimony and > more than 70 scientific articles and books, Justice Shirley > Werner Kornreich concluded that there was insufficient > evidence to support the contention that mold or a damp > indoor environment causes illness. > > “This throws a lot of cold water on the notion that mold is > the cause of personal injury,” said Eva Talel, a Manhattan > real estate lawyer. “And while this isn’t going to be the > last word on the subject, the decision is so comprehensive > and well thought out that other judges are not going to be > anxious to rule differently.” > > The case was brought by Colin and Pamela Fraser on behalf > of themselves and their daughter, Alexandra, against the > 301-52 Townhouse Corporation, which owned their co-op > building. The Frasers contended that mold near windows and > doors in their apartment caused respiratory problems, a > rash and fatigue. The Frasers said that after moving into > an apartment at 301 East 52nd Street in August 1996, Mr. > Fraser developed a leg rash, lethargy and congestion and > hearing, nasal and throat problems and Mrs. Fraser and > their infant daughter developed respiratory problems. > > The couple said their conditions improved when the family > moved out of the apartment in 2002. > > Before allowing the case to proceed to trial, Justice > Kornreich ordered what is known as a Frye hearing to > determine whether the Frasers’ contention that mold caused > their health problems is “generally accepted” by > scientists. > > A Frye hearing, which is named after a 1923 federal case, > is used to determine whether scientific evidence supports a > litigant’s theory of liability. After 10 days and the > testimony of four experts, Justice Kornreich concluded that > while one expert testified mold or damp indoor space caused > health problems, “the scientific literature did not support > his assertions.” As a result, Justice Kornreich dismissed > the claim for personal injuries. > > Three calls to Elizabeth Eilender, the Frasers’ lawyer, > seeking comment and information about a possible appeal, > were not returned. > > Andrew Brucker, the lawyer who represented the co-op in the > case, said that the “whole mold issue has been blown out of > proportion. > > “We think this is going to have a major impact on lawyers > who are thinking about bringing cases alleging injuries > caused by mold,” he said. “And we think that insurance > companies are now going to be more inclined to fight these > cases instead of settle them.” > > Dennis Greenstein, a Manhattan co-op lawyer, said that > while the decision was good news for property owners > concerned that they could be held liable for injuries said > to be caused by mold, they and their property managers > should still take mold problems seriously. > > “People still have to do the best they can when dealing > with mold and the leaks that may cause it,” Mr. Greenstein > said. He pointed out that failure to address mold or leak > problems could still leave owners exposed to lawsuits for > property damage. > > Dr. Joseph Q. Jarvis, an expert in public health who is > affiliated with the University of Nevada School of Medicine > in Reno, said he was surprised that a comprehensive review > of the medical literature led the judge to conclude there > was no consensus that mold can cause illness. While it may > not be possible to specify the level of exposure needed to > cause a problem, he said, it is well documented that > exposure to indoor mold can cause respiratory allergies in > some people. > > > Correction: Oct. 22, 2006 > > The Your Home column last Sunday, about the dismissal of a > claim that sought to hold a co-op corporation in Manhattan > liable for injuries to residents caused by mold, referred > incorrectly to a "Frye hearing," which was held to examine > scientific links between mold and health problems. Contrary > to what a lawyer in the case stated, this was not the first > Frye hearing in New York; at least one other such hearing > was held in Manhattan in 2001.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/22/06, by Sharon.
- Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/25/06, by Thomas V. Juneau, Jr..
- Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/25/06, by a smith.
- Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/25/06, by Sharon Kramer.
- Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 11/01/06, by Sharon Kramer.
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