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    Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement

    Posted by a smith on 10/25/06

    To Sharon:

    As an attorney who deals a lot with mold cases in New York,
    and whose law form was actually involved in the Phipps
    Housing case, I assure you that no court in New York ever
    granted and held a Frye Hearing prior to Judge Shirley
    Kornreich. I know this the New York Law Journal, who has
    follwoed this issue very claosely, also knows this. There's
    a reason why non-lawyers should not comment on areas of the
    law they know nothing about.

    Sincerley;

    Mold litigator in New York

    A Smith

    On 10/22/06, Sharon wrote:
    > Hi All,
    > I tend to stay off of this board as I understand it is for
    > attorneys, but I felt it was important for you all to see
    > this one. The real gist of the situation is how marketing
    > of false concepts is used in mold litigation.
    >
    > Not that anyone intentionally misspoke in the following
    > article. But somehow, whenever one wants to present
    within
    > the media the stance that serious mold induced illnesses
    > are not occurring, it seems to get broad national media
    > attention.
    >
    > Sharon Kramer
    >
    >
    > New York Times,
    >
    > Oct 22, 2206
    >
    > Correction to a Real Estate article
    >
    > Re: Mold and NY Frye, Oct 15, 2006
    >
    > "The Your Home column last Sunday, about the dismissal of
    a
    > claim that sought to hold a co-op corporation in Manhattan
    > liable for injuries to residents caused by mold, referred
    > incorrectly to a "Frye hearing," which was held to examine
    > scientific links between mold and health problems.
    Contrary
    > to what a lawyer in the case stated, this was not the
    first
    > Frye hearing in New York; at least one other such hearing
    > was held in Manhattan in 2001. (Go to Article)"
    >
    > They got many letters of complaint to the Editor. Below is
    > mine:
    >
    >
    > Subject: Another NY Frye hearing over mold.... Just last
    > month You got punk'd.
    > Date: 10/16/2006 9:31:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
    > From: SNK 1955
    >
    >
    > Mr. Romano,
    >
    > Sorry to bother you again, but it is looking more and more
    > like you got punk'd by the defense into writing a story
    > based on a false premise (that this Frye ruling was
    > significant news because it was the first over the mold
    > issue in the state of NY).
    >
    > In reality, what is significant about this Frye ruling is
    > that is it novel in it's conclusions from all other NY
    Frye
    > rulings over the mold issue.
    >
    > It is quite understandable why the defense would want to
    > use the real estate section of the NY Times to market the
    > concept that, “This throws a lot of cold water on the
    > notion that mold is the cause of personal injury,” said
    Eva
    > Talel, a Manhattan real estate lawyer. “And while this
    > isn’t going to be the last word on the subject, the
    > decision is so comprehensive and well thought out that
    > other judges are not going to be anxious to rule
    > differently.”
    >
    > As I understand it, ALL other NY Frye rulings have allowed
    > in testimony of allergy and irritant effects from mold
    > exposure within an indoor environment. This judge is the
    > only one who has not. There is your true story!
    >
    > Beside the one I already sent to you from 2001, here is
    > another one from just last month.
    >
    > Trust me, as a marketing person, I track this kind of
    > stufff over the mold issue. You would not be the first
    > writer to get punk'd into writing a false article over the
    > mold issue.
    >
    > Although, I sincerely hope that now that you know this,
    you
    > will make every effort to set the record straight. The
    > defense attorney you quoted misspoke regarding Frye and
    the
    > state of New York.
    >
    > "Andrew Brucker, the lawyer who represented the co-op in
    > the case, said this was the first time a Frye hearing on
    > mold had been held in New York"
    >
    > This is not the first Frye hearing regarding mold within
    > the state of New York by a long shot.
    > Frye Hr’g Proceeding at 14-15, Davis v. Henry Phipps Plaza
    > South, Assocs. (N.Y. Sup. Ct. (Oct. 11, 2001)
    >
    > What can I do to help you?
    >
    > WR,
    > Sharon
    >
    > Your Home
    > Court Rebuffs a Suit Linking Mold to Illness
    >
    > By JAY ROMANO
    > Published: October 15, 2006
    > Correction Appended
    >
    >
    > Illustration by Tom Bloom
    >
    > A DECISION issued last month by a State Supreme Court
    > justice in Manhattan should allow building owners,
    > including co-op and condominium boards, to rest a little
    > easier about potential claims that indoor mold has injured
    > an occupant of their buildings.
    >
    > After a review of more than 1,000 pages of testimony and
    > more than 70 scientific articles and books, Justice
    Shirley
    > Werner Kornreich concluded that there was insufficient
    > evidence to support the contention that mold or a damp
    > indoor environment causes illness.
    >
    > “This throws a lot of cold water on the notion that mold
    is
    > the cause of personal injury,” said Eva Talel, a Manhattan
    > real estate lawyer. “And while this isn’t going to be the
    > last word on the subject, the decision is so comprehensive
    > and well thought out that other judges are not going to be
    > anxious to rule differently.”
    >
    > The case was brought by Colin and Pamela Fraser on behalf
    > of themselves and their daughter, Alexandra, against the
    > 301-52 Townhouse Corporation, which owned their co-op
    > building. The Frasers contended that mold near windows and
    > doors in their apartment caused respiratory problems, a
    > rash and fatigue. The Frasers said that after moving into
    > an apartment at 301 East 52nd Street in August 1996, Mr.
    > Fraser developed a leg rash, lethargy and congestion and
    > hearing, nasal and throat problems and Mrs. Fraser and
    > their infant daughter developed respiratory problems.
    >
    > The couple said their conditions improved when the family
    > moved out of the apartment in 2002.
    >
    > Before allowing the case to proceed to trial, Justice
    > Kornreich ordered what is known as a Frye hearing to
    > determine whether the Frasers’ contention that mold caused
    > their health problems is “generally accepted” by
    > scientists.
    >
    > A Frye hearing, which is named after a 1923 federal case,
    > is used to determine whether scientific evidence supports
    a
    > litigant’s theory of liability. After 10 days and the
    > testimony of four experts, Justice Kornreich concluded
    that
    > while one expert testified mold or damp indoor space
    caused
    > health problems, “the scientific literature did not
    support
    > his assertions.” As a result, Justice Kornreich dismissed
    > the claim for personal injuries.
    >
    > Three calls to Elizabeth Eilender, the Frasers’ lawyer,
    > seeking comment and information about a possible appeal,
    > were not returned.
    >
    > Andrew Brucker, the lawyer who represented the co-op in
    the
    > case, said that the “whole mold issue has been blown out
    of
    > proportion.
    >
    > “We think this is going to have a major impact on lawyers
    > who are thinking about bringing cases alleging injuries
    > caused by mold,” he said. “And we think that insurance
    > companies are now going to be more inclined to fight these
    > cases instead of settle them.”
    >
    > Dennis Greenstein, a Manhattan co-op lawyer, said that
    > while the decision was good news for property owners
    > concerned that they could be held liable for injuries said
    > to be caused by mold, they and their property managers
    > should still take mold problems seriously.
    >
    > “People still have to do the best they can when dealing
    > with mold and the leaks that may cause it,” Mr. Greenstein
    > said. He pointed out that failure to address mold or leak
    > problems could still leave owners exposed to lawsuits for
    > property damage.
    >
    > Dr. Joseph Q. Jarvis, an expert in public health who is
    > affiliated with the University of Nevada School of
    Medicine
    > in Reno, said he was surprised that a comprehensive review
    > of the medical literature led the judge to conclude there
    > was no consensus that mold can cause illness. While it may
    > not be possible to specify the level of exposure needed to
    > cause a problem, he said, it is well documented that
    > exposure to indoor mold can cause respiratory allergies in
    > some people.
    >
    >
    > Correction: Oct. 22, 2006
    >
    > The Your Home column last Sunday, about the dismissal of a
    > claim that sought to hold a co-op corporation in Manhattan
    > liable for injuries to residents caused by mold, referred
    > incorrectly to a "Frye hearing," which was held to examine
    > scientific links between mold and health problems.
    Contrary
    > to what a lawyer in the case stated, this was not the
    first
    > Frye hearing in New York; at least one other such hearing
    > was held in Manhattan in 2001.

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/22/06, by Sharon.
  • Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/25/06, by Thomas V. Juneau, Jr..
  • Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/25/06, by a smith.
  • Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 10/25/06, by Sharon Kramer.
  • Re: NY Times Retraction Re;Frye/Mold/Attorney Misstatement, 11/01/06, by Sharon Kramer.


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