Re: What States bar is the hardest?
Posted by billy on 5/16/08
since we are on the subject of the bar/mbe, which do you think is the hardest bar? > honestly...just keep doing problems..no matter what the source. > >> i love pmbr. >>> I have recently passed the Bar Exam for PA but I have experience with both the home >>> study Micro Mash Program for CA and the PA and NJ Barbri classes & materials. >>> >>> >>> If money is not an issue just do the BarBri. It has better books and the community >>> aspect of the live class helps keep you focussed on the task at hand. >>> >>> >>> When I took Micro-Mash for CA the materials were a lot harder to follow and they seemed >>> to be of cheaper construction. There would be paragraphs that seemed ambiguous. When I >>> got the books it came with a floppy disk. Even though it was a few years ago(2005) it >>> was all very outdated for the time. Maybe they have improved since then. >>> >>> >>> The problem with Ber-bri and micromash is they are unrealistic. Especially Micromash, >>> their guarantee is just a farce because they give you more things to do than a regular >>> person can get through in the time they have to prepare. >>> >>> >>> I have been tutoring people for a while to pass the bar, mostly former classmates and >>> friends. The real trick and the smartest thing to do is buy the used books off of a >>> friend, ebay, or craig's list. >>> >>> >>> The material really does not change and there are books sitting in peoples closets all >>> over town. Anything over the past year or two should do. >>> Why not save thousands of dollars? >>> >>> >>> Also pick up the PMBR audio lectures or a different audio lecture through the same >>> resources. >>> >>> >>> Regardless of the publisher, all of the books are essentially the same with respect to >>> volumes and layouts. The below study formula works way better than the plan from Barbri >>> or micromash. Additionally you can use it in conjunction with it if you are enrolled in >>> the class and realize its flaw. >>> >>> >>> First divide your total number of weeks to study into approximately half. >>> >>> >>> How many weeks? >>> >>> As many as you have. >>> >>> >>> During the first half you concentrate on study and review and during the second half you >>> concentrate on practice MBE questions and practice essays. >>> Obviously, the halves are not mutually exclusive. The golden standard is 8 hours a day >>> of combined study. >>> >>> The most important book is the mini mutli-state review. The fact that you get so many >>> crossover questions on those subjects makes knowing the MBE subjects a must. Getting >>> these down cold is a huge part of the battle. The sooner you start digesting the >>> material the better. >>> >>> Use the large multi-state book and large state book are used when you need to look a >>> particular subject area up in more detail. >>> Most publishers give you significant state exceptions to the standard MBE rule as part >>> of the mini review book. >>> >>> Most importantly, you need to listen to Audio lectures. >>> Parallel the topics of the lectures to the same material you are reviewing in the study >>> process. >>> You are going to need some type of portable listening device and some head phones. >>> Listen to the lectures while you are doing other things you do not always have to be >>> paying full attention. It is about repetition and reinforcement. >>> If you are cleaning the house, making dinner, driving the car, going to the grocery >>> store, before bead, or whatever, thats when you need to listen to those lectures. >>> If you are not required to speak you should be listening. I cannot emphasize the >>> importance of this enough. Not only does it really work to enforce the material but it >>> also cuts down on the amount of time you have spend studying total so just do it! >>> >>> I suggest starting with torts & constitutional law because they are naturally intuitive >>> subjects and they will get the legal juices flowing again. >>> >>> >>> Before the test you can get your MBE question time down to just under 34 per hour but I >>> always found it more helpful to always read the answer after each answered question so >>> one can still remember the facts and can learn something. >>> >>> >>> Definitely make sure you see exactly how time you have exactly on each essay question >>> and per sub question. In PA it was about ten minutes per essay sub question, which is >>> not really a lot of time. >>> You have to get into the habit of answering the essays that you could expand >>> indefinitely upon in at that amount of time. >>> >>> Use, study, and make mnemonic devices. They will help you rock essays and recall >>> distinctions on the MBE. You can just identify the issue, relate a fact to each >>> element, and then get the heck out of there and move onto the next question. >>> Additionally, if you get a question you do not know the answer to you can simply answer >>> it using a slightly off topic mnemonic device and still pick up a lot of points. >>> >>> >>> Finally, the test will mess with your brain at times, especially as the test date gets >>> closer and if you are studying on your own. You will just have to shake that off and >>> move forward anyway. >>> Just formulate a plan and stick to it and do not stress yourself out. >>> >>> Good luck!
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