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    Re: What States bar is the hardest?

    Posted by billy on 5/16/08

    since we are on the subject of the bar/mbe, which do you think is the hardest bar?
    > honestly...just keep doing problems..no matter what the source.
    >
    >> i love pmbr.
    >>> I have recently passed the Bar Exam for PA but I have experience with both the home
    >>> study Micro Mash Program for CA and the PA and NJ Barbri classes & materials.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> If money is not an issue just do the BarBri. It has better books and the community
    >>> aspect of the live class helps keep you focussed on the task at hand.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> When I took Micro-Mash for CA the materials were a lot harder to follow and they seemed
    >>> to be of cheaper construction. There would be paragraphs that seemed ambiguous. When I
    >>> got the books it came with a floppy disk. Even though it was a few years ago(2005) it
    >>> was all very outdated for the time. Maybe they have improved since then.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The problem with Ber-bri and micromash is they are unrealistic. Especially Micromash,
    >>> their guarantee is just a farce because they give you more things to do than a regular
    >>> person can get through in the time they have to prepare.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I have been tutoring people for a while to pass the bar, mostly former classmates and
    >>> friends. The real trick and the smartest thing to do is buy the used books off of a
    >>> friend, ebay, or craig's list.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The material really does not change and there are books sitting in peoples closets all
    >>> over town. Anything over the past year or two should do.
    >>> Why not save thousands of dollars?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Also pick up the PMBR audio lectures or a different audio lecture through the same
    >>> resources.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Regardless of the publisher, all of the books are essentially the same with respect to
    >>> volumes and layouts. The below study formula works way better than the plan from Barbri
    >>> or micromash. Additionally you can use it in conjunction with it if you are enrolled in
    >>> the class and realize its flaw.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> First divide your total number of weeks to study into approximately half.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> How many weeks?
    >>>
    >>> As many as you have.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> During the first half you concentrate on study and review and during the second half you
    >>> concentrate on practice MBE questions and practice essays.
    >>> Obviously, the halves are not mutually exclusive. The golden standard is 8 hours a day
    >>> of combined study.
    >>>
    >>> The most important book is the mini mutli-state review. The fact that you get so many
    >>> crossover questions on those subjects makes knowing the MBE subjects a must. Getting
    >>> these down cold is a huge part of the battle. The sooner you start digesting the
    >>> material the better.
    >>>
    >>> Use the large multi-state book and large state book are used when you need to look a
    >>> particular subject area up in more detail.
    >>> Most publishers give you significant state exceptions to the standard MBE rule as part
    >>> of the mini review book.
    >>>
    >>> Most importantly, you need to listen to Audio lectures.
    >>> Parallel the topics of the lectures to the same material you are reviewing in the study
    >>> process.
    >>> You are going to need some type of portable listening device and some head phones.
    >>> Listen to the lectures while you are doing other things you do not always have to be
    >>> paying full attention. It is about repetition and reinforcement.
    >>> If you are cleaning the house, making dinner, driving the car, going to the grocery
    >>> store, before bead, or whatever, thats when you need to listen to those lectures.
    >>> If you are not required to speak you should be listening. I cannot emphasize the
    >>> importance of this enough. Not only does it really work to enforce the material but it
    >>> also cuts down on the amount of time you have spend studying total so just do it!
    >>>
    >>> I suggest starting with torts & constitutional law because they are naturally intuitive
    >>> subjects and they will get the legal juices flowing again.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Before the test you can get your MBE question time down to just under 34 per hour but I
    >>> always found it more helpful to always read the answer after each answered question so
    >>> one can still remember the facts and can learn something.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Definitely make sure you see exactly how time you have exactly on each essay question
    >>> and per sub question. In PA it was about ten minutes per essay sub question, which is
    >>> not really a lot of time.
    >>> You have to get into the habit of answering the essays that you could expand
    >>> indefinitely upon in at that amount of time.
    >>>
    >>> Use, study, and make mnemonic devices. They will help you rock essays and recall
    >>> distinctions on the MBE. You can just identify the issue, relate a fact to each
    >>> element, and then get the heck out of there and move onto the next question.
    >>> Additionally, if you get a question you do not know the answer to you can simply answer
    >>> it using a slightly off topic mnemonic device and still pick up a lot of points.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Finally, the test will mess with your brain at times, especially as the test date gets
    >>> closer and if you are studying on your own. You will just have to shake that off and
    >>> move forward anyway.
    >>> Just formulate a plan and stick to it and do not stress yourself out.
    >>>
    >>> Good luck!

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