Re: Felonys, Misdemeanors, and Background checks....

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The TV show OZ probably hit the nail on the head with some of
the crazy sh*t you guys go through in prison. Who would want to
be around someone who has gone through that sh*t?

On 7/05/06, John again wrote:
> On 7/04/06, Curmudgeon wrote:
>> You did not make a "mistake." You made a deliberate
>> decision to commit a crime. Employers, landlords, etc., are
>> entitled to know that you are the type of person that either
>> poses a risk of committing another crime or has such bad
>> judgment that you make those types of "mistakes." You are
>> proving that with your post. Rather than accepting
>> responsibility for your past and making the best of what you
>> have, you try to excuse it as a "mistake"--and we're somehow
>> supposed to assume that it will never happen again. My short
>> answer to you, my friend----B*llsh*t.
>>
>> On 7/04/06, John wrote:
>>> Here is my opinion about criminal background checks. If a
>>> person has made a criminal mistake in their past and paid
>>> their debt to society, they need to be set FREE (Truly
>>> FREE) and not oppressed by society for the rest of their
>>> lives and continually held accountable for past mistakes.
>>>
>>> A criminal background check (employment, housing, etc...)
>>> on an ex-offender only serves to oppress and discriminate
>>> against these people based on their past mistakes. If
>>> they have paid their debt to society, then LET them go
>>> FREE! Truly FREE!
>>>
>>> Everytime an ex-offender cannot find work, housing, or
>>> licensing for a profession and better way of life...he or
>>> she is placed in a desperate life situation. Depression
>>> and Anger fills them. If this person finds him/herself
>>> without hope of a better future or any future for that
>>> matter, then you can most assuredly expect the CREATION of
>>> More criminal activity, more hatred towards an unforgiving
>>> society, and a SKYROCKETING repeat offender RECIDIVISM
>>> rate in our national prison systems.
>>>
>>> If ex-offenders cannot find decent work, housing, or a
>>> better life after their release...what GOOD is their
>>> FREEDOM..???? What good is their life! SET THEM FREE!
>>>
>>> GIVE Ex-offenders BACK their rights to live! Stop holding
>>> these people accountable for the rest of their lives for
>>> past mistakes (not a damn one of us is perfect or has
>>> never sinned), and give them the TRUE FREEDOM to better
>>> their lives without fear of the oppression and
>>> discrimination that comes from looking into their
>>> backgrounds and holding this against them for the rest of
>>> their lives. How UTTERLY RIDICULOUS and WHAT A TRAVESTY!
>>> That is NOT JUSTICE, that is OPPRESSION! And when hope is
>>> finally lost in the souls of these ex-offenders, you are
>>> CREATING Criminals, NOT rehabilitating them!
>>>
>>> You think about that!
>>>
>>> Judge not and condemn not, lest YOU be judged!
>>> The merciful shall obtain Mercy!
>>>
>>> There is a higher power to listen too and obey than the
>>> biases of mankind and His name is God Almighty whom this
>>> nation was founded UNDER.
>>>
>>> FREE those who are wrongly being continually oppressed and
>>> give the Lord a mightly flood of justice and mercy towards
>>> those in trouble, in need of help, and who are poor.
>>>
>>> I am pissed off and angry as hell at what I see going on
>>> around me with ex-offenders and with myself.
>>>
>>> Unless things change, society is going to see an EXPLOSION
>>> of criminal activity, until rights are restored to
>>> oppressed and discriminated ex-offenders!
>>>
>>> The whole sitaiton is PATHETIC and I am deeply ashamed!
>
>
> Curmudgeon,
>
> By your reasoning you are saying once a criminal, ALWAYS a
> criminal. That is BullSh...! And it is
> prejudicial/discriminatory and leads to a life of oppression!
>
> I don't care what a person has done, no person is beyond
> redemption. STOP judging other people based on their pasts
> (which is gone anyway), or you will be judged by the same
> standards you use for others by God! That is a BIG message in
> the Bible!
>
> And you say that crime is deliberate and not a mistake. Of
> course, crime is deliberate because the person doing it is
> doing it for some reason (maybe being brought up in a broken
> home with no upbringing). We ALL make "mistakes" in our lives
> (wrong job, wrong spouse, curse, lie, lust, adultery, greed,
> gossip, slander, anger, immoral, etc....)
>
> But if a person has committed some crime and has been punished
> for it and served their debt to society, it should not be held
> against them for the rest of their lives! That is completely
> WRONG! Why bother punishing them for a limited amount of time
> and then releasing them at all, if that is the case?
>
> If society is not going to forgive a person's past
> trangressions, then what's the point of releasing them from
> prison in the first place. They will have no life when they
> get out anyway. Why not just keep them in prison for the rest
> of their lives OR better yet....because YOU feel once a
> criminal, ALWAYS a criminal..why not just KILL them (gas,
> lethal injuction) and save the tax payers money from
> supporting them in prison. Right!
>
> Have you ever lied in your life? Should I judge you as
> a "Liar" for the rest of your life thinking everything that
> comes out of your mouth for the rest of your life will be a
> lie? How utterly FOOLISH!
>
> You may say, "Well, I can lie all I want too because it isn't
> against the law." But does that make it right? It is against
> God's law. And even the courtrooms call this perjury.
>
> Have you ever been angry with another person? God says you
> are a murderer at heart when you do so and subject to His
> judgment, lest your mercy towards others wins out against his
> judgement towards you.
>
> Have you ever looked upon a woman with lust? God says you are
> an adulterer at heart when you do so. But you may say lust
> and adultery is legal. Not according to God!
>
> Are you prideful and arrogant? These are abominations to God.
>
> Simply put and this says it all...."no one is perfect, not a
> single person on earth" and if you or anyone will not forgive
> another persons transgression in their life, then you yourself
> will NOT be forgiven by God and these ramifications are
> eternal.
>
> But you may be an athiest for all I know. I also know my
> words wont change a person who is unwilling to change either.
> God says people who will not listen are stubborn and
> rebellious because they hate the light and love the darkness.
>
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