Re: There is a DC attorney that Pratices Immigracion law in FL

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02/10/08, Jack wrote:

I found an Immigracion law attorney in Miami, FL who is a member of the DC bar. this
attorney has 4 offices in the Miami area. His name is Robert Sheldon, though I think he
went to a traditional law school. He is not a FL bar member, and his website makes a
disclaimer " only Immigration law practice", or soemthing like that. He also runs an
Immigration Paralegal Institute(dba, Florida Paralegal Institue). This guy is a real
success story. And he really likes to help the hispanic immigrant community, I called his
offices they were very helpful.
So I guess if you are get licensed in any state or territory you can practice
Immigration Law in Florida.

On 2/10/08, LD wrote:
> Mary is a staff manager----------Here is the email---- Please see the state of
> washington eamil below------Anyone that does not believe me, please email. I did a
> follow up call and asked her about DC. Wash state only ruled for ca DL students and IF
> THEY ARE ADMITTED to CA 1st, there is no waiting time to sit for washington state bar.
> PLEASE CALL THE # BELOW----- Without bashing me again, Calling the state bar directly
> would let you know if I am accurate correct? thats all I am saying. You have to pass
> CA 1st----------no waiting time to sit for wash bar-------Email and Phone # below, so
> dont take my word for it. Call yourselves-------------------AND I AM NOT MIKE
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> Subject: RE: Bar question for Mary
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:01:28 -0800
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> On 2/10/08, LD wrote:
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>> Do not know a Mike------If he reads my posts, so be it. I did post something
>> yesterdat about washingtom. I do not have an alias ------sorry.
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>> On 2/10/08, Michael T. wrote:
>>> Ah, it appears our friend LD is back-- this time under the alias "Mike." The writing
>>> style is unmistakeable. Too funny. And marketing his online law schools book again,
>>> I might add.
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>>> LD, I understand your passion for this topic, however the concern here is that you
>>> are misleading others. Nothing you state below has yet to be verified in writing
>>> from any State Bar Association. Nor have you been able to produce the name of just
>>> ONE student, on the entire planet, who has succeeded taking the route you suggest.
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>>> Your comments in another post about "Mary" and her opinions regarding WA law are
>>> another clear example, as "--" points out, of a flaw in your research and reasoning
>>> (both critical qualities, I might add, in a successful attorney).
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>>> You've got to understand, LD, that a phone call with "Mary" does not and will never
>>> supercede published WA statutory law (again, as "--" points out). Do you understand?
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>>> I had thought we were finished with this thread, however it appears to have come
>>> roaring back. I realize you are feeling the need to push your "online law schools"
>>> book, however you must realize by now that this forum will not simply allow you to
>>> publish half-baked truths, which mislead people, without a response.
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>>> So, again, for perhaps the 100th time, we offer the same challenge we've offered in
>>> the past. If you can meet this challenge, I guarantee you will receive respect and
>>> perhaps even some apologies. Why you won't pursue this continues to be a mystery to
>>> myself and others.
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>>> Here we go:
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>>> 1. Obtain a signed letter from the WA State Bar stating that if you pass the CA Bar,
>>> you will immediately become certified to take the WA State Bar exam, and not be
>>> subject to any practice requirement, with a non-bar JD degree from a non-ABA school.
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>>> 2. Obtain a signed letter from the DC State Bar stating that with a non-bar JD
>>> degree, from an unaccredited school, along with 26-credit hours of online LLM
>>> courses (and list the courses and their descriptions so they are ultra clear in what
>>> you are proposing), you will be certified to sit for DC's Bar Exam.
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>>> Really, LD, that's all we're asking. It's actually quite simple. Rather than
>>> continue to banter about with your and "Mary's" understanding of state law, just get
>>> it in writing, as any solid attorney would do. Get the letters and you'll be the
>>> man.
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>>> Could you please respond to this note? In particular, please let us know why you are
>>> unwilling to take these steps? Thanks a lot and good luck.
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>>> Mike (the real Mike, by the way :))
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>>> On 2/09/08, Mike wrote:
>>>> An LLM can get you bar admission with a non aba jd for DC. You can have any non
>>>> aba jd even if an exec jd with an LLM, But the LLM has to be in subjects dc tests
>>>> on----I called DC the other day and they do accept LLM credits for their 26 credit
>>>> requirement--and Its Not just 1L or 2l courses, they have a whole list on the dc
>>>> bar admission page, but you can earn your llm and take courses like
>>>> wills,trusts,estates,ethics,corp,agency.partnership--etc. My friend is going to
>>>> Novus since they have a 2 year Non bar JD program, and is trying to get some of
>>>> the aba credits online at 1 of the many new aba online llm programs, and he might
>>>> get the rest at an in person llm program. He got a 1st copy of the new book
>>>> coming out, onlinelawschoolbook.com but I just called americas legal where its
>>>> offered and its being re released next week. But you can earn aba credits at
>>>> thomas jefferson online, cooley online, uconn online, nova southeastern online--
>>>> all from the law school, and their are tons of other aba programs in this book
>>>> along with every us online jd program in the us, even not california schools. So,
>>>> if you want to go the DC route since you ask about LLM to sit for the bar, DC
>>>> doesnt make you take the baby bar, and you can sit in 2-3 years. Even if you cant
>>>> get all the credits online, just get your non aba jd, and go to an in person llm
>>>> program, and sit for DC----------(novus 2 years) LLM 1 year) and sit for DC in 3
>>>> years and no need for the baby bar and no need for 4 years.
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>>>>> On 1/05/08, vechio wrote:
>>>>>> As I read it page 45 and 46 refers to foreign law school graduates. Probably
>>>>>> best to refer to the NC and CT bar for clarification.
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>>>>> Below is the current NC education requirements from the "Rules Governing the
>>>>> Admission to Practice Law in the State of North Carolina" (See the bar examiners
>>>>> website for NC) There are no DL law schools on the approved list including ABA
>>>>> DL schools that offer an LL.M degree. Please note that the requirement says
>>>>> EVERY APPLICANT not just foreign applicants and it says A LAW SCHOOL APPROVED by
>>>>> the state bar.
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>>>>> Connecticut has a similar provision and their list of approved law schools has
>>>>> no DL schools listed. CA is the only state that allows DL students to sit for a
>>>>> first time bar exam. Everyone else will require a minimum of 3 years licensed
>>>>> practice if you don't have an ABA J.D. You can believe what you want, however;
>>>>> those considering a law school education should not be misled by wishful
>>>>> thinking that is not fact based.
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>>>>> Section: .0702 LEGAL EDUCATION
>>>>> Every applicant applying for admission to practice law in the State of North
>>>>> Carolina, before being granted a license to practice law, shall prove to the
>>>>> satisfaction of the Board that said applicant has graduated from a law school
>>>>> approved by the Council of The North Carolina State Bar or that said applicant
>>>>> will graduate within thirty (30) days after the date of the written bar
>>>>> examination from a law school approved by the Council of the North Carolina
>>>>> State Bar. There shall be filed with the Secretary a certificate of the dean, or
>>>>> other proper official of said law school, certifying the date of the applicant's
>>>>> graduation. A list of the approved law schools is available in the office of the
>>>>> Secretary.