Re: LL.M degree will not get you bar admission

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The followings were the question I asked DC and the response I got:

Subject: Non-ABA-approved law school J.D. + 26 semester hours in tested subjects from
ABA-approved law school

To Whom It May Concern:

I understand that the above combination can qualify one to sit for the DC Bar. And
under Rule 46 (b) (8) (iii), it seems like the tax law subjects are now qualify.
So let's say I have a J.D. from a non-ABA law school. And if I complete a ABA-approved
LL.M. in taxation and only with 26 units of tax classes, can I qualify to sit for the DC
Bar?

No. You need to have 26 semester hours in tested subjects as provided for by our
Rules. While a basic tax course will likely be accepted, the bar examination does not
test on advanced tax matters. You need to have a combination of subjects that are
tested in the examination.

On 9/04/08, Ms. Researcher wrote:
> I called DC and if your degree is non- bar JD then you need additional credits from
> ABA accredited school to sit. (there number is 202-737-4700)
>
> Ms.Researcher On 2/10/08, Michael T. wrote:
>> Ah, it appears our friend LD is back-- this time under the alias "Mike." The writing
>> style is unmistakeable. Too funny. And marketing his online law schools book again,
>> I might add.
>>
>> LD, I understand your passion for this topic, however the concern here is that you
>> are misleading others. Nothing you state below has yet to be verified in writing
>> from any State Bar Association. Nor have you been able to produce the name of just
>> ONE student, on the entire planet, who has succeeded taking the route you suggest.
>>
>> Your comments in another post about "Mary" and her opinions regarding WA law are
>> another clear example, as "--" points out, of a flaw in your research and reasoning
>> (both critical qualities, I might add, in a successful attorney).
>>
>> You've got to understand, LD, that a phone call with "Mary" does not and will never
>> supercede published WA statutory law (again, as "--" points out). Do you understand?
>>
>> I had thought we were finished with this thread, however it appears to have come
>> roaring back. I realize you are feeling the need to push your "online law schools"
>> book, however you must realize by now that this forum will not simply allow you to
>> publish half-baked truths, which mislead people, without a response.
>>
>> So, again, for perhaps the 100th time, we offer the same challenge we've offered in
>> the past. If you can meet this challenge, I guarantee you will receive respect and
>> perhaps even some apologies. Why you won't pursue this continues to be a mystery to
>> myself and others.
>>
>> Here we go:
>>
>> 1. Obtain a signed letter from the WA State Bar stating that if you pass the CA Bar,
>> you will immediately become certified to take the WA State Bar exam, and not be
>> subject to any practice requirement, with a non-bar JD degree from a non-ABA school.
>>
>> 2. Obtain a signed letter from the DC State Bar stating that with a non-bar JD
>> degree, from an unaccredited school, along with 26-credit hours of online LLM
>> courses (and list the courses and their descriptions so they are ultra clear in what
>> you are proposing), you will be certified to sit for DC's Bar Exam.
>>
>> Really, LD, that's all we're asking. It's actually quite simple. Rather than
>> continue to banter about with your and "Mary's" understanding of state law, just get
>> it in writing, as any solid attorney would do. Get the letters and you'll be the
>> man.
>>
>> Could you please respond to this note? In particular, please let us know why you are
>> unwilling to take these steps? Thanks a lot and good luck.
>>
>> Mike (the real Mike, by the way :))
>>
>> On 2/09/08, Mike wrote:
>>> An LLM can get you bar admission with a non aba jd for DC. You can have any non
>>> aba jd even if an exec jd with an LLM, But the LLM has to be in subjects dc tests
>>> on----I called DC the other day and they do accept LLM credits for their 26 credit
>>> requirement--and Its Not just 1L or 2l courses, they have a whole list on the dc
>>> bar admission page, but you can earn your llm and take courses like
>>> wills,trusts,estates,ethics,corp,agency.partnership--etc. My friend is going to
>>> Novus since they have a 2 year Non bar JD program, and is trying to get some of
>>> the aba credits online at 1 of the many new aba online llm programs, and he might
>>> get the rest at an in person llm program. He got a 1st copy of the new book
>>> coming out, onlinelawschoolbook.com but I just called americas legal where its
>>> offered and its being re released next week. But you can earn aba credits at
>>> thomas jefferson online, cooley online, uconn online, nova southeastern online--
>>> all from the law school, and their are tons of other aba programs in this book
>>> along with every us online jd program in the us, even not california schools. So,
>>> if you want to go the DC route since you ask about LLM to sit for the bar, DC
>>> doesnt make you take the baby bar, and you can sit in 2-3 years. Even if you cant
>>> get all the credits online, just get your non aba jd, and go to an in person llm
>>> program, and sit for DC----------(novus 2 years) LLM 1 year) and sit for DC in 3
>>> years and no need for the baby bar and no need for 4 years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/06/08, -- wrote:
>>>> On 1/05/08, vechio wrote:
>>>>> As I read it page 45 and 46 refers to foreign law school graduates. Probably
>>>>> best to refer to the NC and CT bar for clarification.
>>>>
>>>> Below is the current NC education requirements from the "Rules Governing the
>>>> Admission to Practice Law in the State of North Carolina" (See the bar examiners
>>>> website for NC) There are no DL law schools on the approved list including ABA
>>>> DL schools that offer an LL.M degree. Please note that the requirement says
>>>> EVERY APPLICANT not just foreign applicants and it says A LAW SCHOOL APPROVED by
>>>> the state bar.
>>>>
>>>> Connecticut has a similar provision and their list of approved law schools has
>>>> no DL schools listed. CA is the only state that allows DL students to sit for a
>>>> first time bar exam. Everyone else will require a minimum of 3 years licensed
>>>> practice if you don't have an ABA J.D. You can believe what you want, however;
>>>> those considering a law school education should not be misled by wishful
>>>> thinking that is not fact based.
>>>>
>>>> Section: .0702 LEGAL EDUCATION
>>>> Every applicant applying for admission to practice law in the State of North
>>>> Carolina, before being granted a license to practice law, shall prove to the
>>>> satisfaction of the Board that said applicant has graduated from a law school
>>>> approved by the Council of The North Carolina State Bar or that said applicant
>>>> will graduate within thirty (30) days after the date of the written bar
>>>> examination from a law school approved by the Council of the North Carolina
>>>> State Bar. There shall be filed with the Secretary a certificate of the dean, or
>>>> other proper official of said law school, certifying the date of the applicant's
>>>> graduation. A list of the approved law schools is available in the office of the
>>>> Secretary.