Re: CURMUDGEN V RESPOND

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TV: Your son got busted for not
folowing the rules. I'm not an
attorney, but in this situation
there is no due process. He knew
the rules, he broke them three
times. He is paying the price. He
is your responsabilty. There are
laws against truency. If your son
can't learn how to behave now.
Who's fault is it? you blame the
courts? The court is going to
blame you! & he'll learn the hard
way now before he has to in prison
latter. Sociaty dosen't have to
tolerate bad behavior. AND THE
MESSAGE HAS BEEN SENT. Apparently
niether of you get it. Sounds like
you are condonning this. Maybe you
are part of the problem.

On 3/14/05, tv wrote:
> On 3/14/05, Curmudgeon wrote:
>> Sir v, you're closer than you
thought.
>>
>> The posts piqued my interest,
so I did a little digging. In
>> the OP's home county, there is
a cooperative program
>> established by the schools,
juvenile authorities, and the
>> courts.
>>
>> It kicks in when a child has
received a third out-of-school
>> suspension and is, thus, facing
expulsion. Rather than
>> letting the little buggers run
the streets unsupervised while
>> suspended, they are required to
report to the program and
>> spend the days studying, doing
community service, and taking
>> appropriate classes on anger
management, life skills, etc.
>>
>> If they fail to report on the
first day of the suspension,
>> they will be picked up and held
until they can go before the
>> judge and explain why they
didn't report. It is the parents'
>> responsibility to get the child
to the program.
>>
>> Amazingly, many of the involved
parents complain because its
>> such a "hardship" to deliver
the child to the program and pick
>> him up at the end of the day.
>>
>> On 3/14/05, v wrote:
>>> TV: Are you related to
Roosta? I
>>> wouldn't worrie about the
little
>>> buggers. It'll keep them off
the
>>> streets. Their probly headed
for
>>> prison any way.
>>>
>>> On 3/14/05, TV wrote:
>>>> hello reader. in the city
of
>>> wabash in wabash county ind
>>>> ther is an order from local
>>> court that apon 3rd referral
>>>> to out of school suspension
from
>>> principal. that the child
>>>> is to be picked up
immmediatly
>>> and put in detention center
>>>> until next court date. some
of
>>> the offenses that can get a
>>>> refferall are tardys
horseplay
>>> foul language ect. mostly
>>>> descretion of principal.
seems
>>> to me this gives principal
>>>> the power to sentence
children
>>> to jail time without their
>>>> due process. they also make
them
>>> write out a statement of
>>>> guilt to be used against them
in
>>> court but they are
>>>> teenagers and dont understand
>>> what their doing as far as
>>>> legality, they are told to
just
>>> write the statement and
>>>> they may or may not get
>>> suspended. they are not told
that
>>>> it will be used against them
in
>>> court. it seems to me that
>>>> the principal given this
power
>>> should be considered as an
>>>> officer of the court and have
to
>>> go by their rules as far
>>>> as interegating a student for
>>> info to be solely used
>>>> against them in court. and my
>>> question is can a local
>>>> judge issue such a blank
order
>>> legally wouldnt it have to
>>>> be some type of city or
county
>>> ordinance. thnx tv
>>>
> ok gonna try this 1 more time
the juvenile was taken to det
> center on friday he was to
report to day reporting on monday
> thats today. we went to court
today he spent the weekend in det
> center. this morning in court he
was ordered to report to day
> reporting. i told the judge we
wanted a lawyer, he said we could
> hire a lawyer and contest it but
as far as he was concernd my
> son was to report to day
reporting. we werent given any
> oppertunity to put up a defense
of any kind. and my son spent 3
> days in det without being
charged for any crime. so as you
can
> see he wasnt sent to det center
for not showing up. he was sent
> because of the 3rd referral. get
it now and he was also
> sentenced to day reporting.
so you tell me where was the due
> process we had 1 court
appearance and it was a
> sentecing. thnx tv