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    Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?

    Posted by Joy on 11/08/07

    I hear the statue of limitation is three years in North
    Carolina. Have you hear this or had any dealings with this
    statue?

    On 10/25/07, Gary Ricin wrote:
    > I'm not a lawyer, but I can offer the following that you could
    > run by a lawyer:
    >
    > If you don't have any documented proof, then it will be tough
    > getting anyone to listen to your argument regarding having
    > received a verbal assurance from the dealership that
    > surrendering the car would free you up from any loan
    > obligation.
    >
    > Actually, I'm a little confused as to how the dealership would
    > have known exactly how much they could have sold the car for
    > when you spoke to them.
    >
    > Also, I'd say that, if Wolpoff and Abramson is involved, then
    > the amount Chrysler claims you owe has already been inflated
    > by W&A beyond recognition and it will continue to grow for no
    > reason other than greed.
    >
    > W&A are criminals, and Chrysler should be ashamed to have
    > anything to do with them. Even car dealerships should have
    > standards.
    >
    > As far as garnishment of your wages goes, that usually follows
    > a series of events that finish with a Court order being issued
    > allowing the creditor to claim and receive a percentage of
    > your salary from your employer before you even see it.
    >
    > There are limits to what percentage of your wages can be
    > garnished, one of which is based on the national "minimum
    > wage." Since minimum wage is going up, I'm not sure if the
    > law will change, since a rise in minimum wage will mean that
    > the amount people are allowed to "protect" from garnishment
    > will, by default, go up.
    >
    > The post-judgment hearing to determine whether a creditor can
    > garnish your wages and how how much usually includes some kind
    > of means test, to see if you can pay the garnished amount and
    > still meet your ordinary living expenses.
    >
    > It could be that your income is so low that you are what's
    > known as "judgment proof." That means that the creditor knows
    > that, even if it gets a judgment against you, the likelihood
    > of getting any money out of you is remote.
    >
    > In this case, they will hold off going to court in the hope
    > that your financial situation will improve enough that it's
    > worth their while to get a judgment against you, or they will
    > quickly sell the alleged debt to someone below them in the
    > debt collection food chain.
    >
    > Ultimately, I'm guessing that the contract you signed to get
    > the car had an agreement to arbitrate clause in it, which
    > requires that you arbitrate any dispute that arises between
    > you and the creditor -- which may or may not be Chrysler.
    >
    > (Although, if W&A used the word "sue," then maybe you aren't
    > obligated to arbitrate. You might want to give the letter and
    > any credit agreement you have another read to check this out.)
    >
    > If you do have to arbitrate, then this means that, sometime
    > soon, you'll be receiving a notice of arbitration hearing.
    >
    > Since you're dealing with W&A, this notification will likely
    > come from its partner in crime, the National Arbitration
    > Forum. (W&A, NAF and MBNA are known to have been operating a
    > fake arbiration award scam for years.)
    >
    > Be aware, though. It's quite likely that the NAF will
    > deliberately mail this notice to a wrong address, so that you
    > don't get a chance to respond to it. Then, after a couple
    > months, the NAF will mail you (or to a wrong address) an
    > unitemised arbitration award against you for some amount that
    > is many times more than any actual debt that you might have
    > ever owed.)
    >
    > You will have 30 days to file a challenge with the NAF to this
    > award, assuming you even know that it exists.
    >
    > If you don't challenge it (and probably even if you do, since
    > the NAF will likely ignore your challenge, anyway) the
    > creditor will file a Motion to Confirm an Arbitration Award in
    > your local court system.
    >
    > Since this is a document filed with the court, it will be sent
    > to your correct address. This might well be the first you'll
    > even hear about the "arbitration."
    >
    > At this point, you still have the option to challenge the
    > mechanics of the arbitration, but not the actual arbitration
    > award itself.
    >
    > If you look back over previous posts, there are many comments
    > relating to lack of proof of service -- i.e. lack of proof
    > that you were ever informed that an arbitration hearing was to
    > take place and/or that any award was ever made against you --
    > that yo might find helpful.
    >
    > It's probably worth your while looking back over those.
    >
    > The main thing,though, is that you stay involved in the
    > process, research your options and resist these criminals
    > every step of the way.
    >
    > Although the amount being demanded right now doesn't warrant
    > hiring an attorney at this point, the debt will quickly
    > increase to the point that it likely will be worth your while
    > to hire a local attorney to at least go over your options with
    > you.
    >
    > Good luck, and congrats on your baby.
    >
    > On 10/24/07, Edwin Fernandez wrote:
    >> On 8/07/07, 12 wrote:
    >>> Several years ago, I surrendered a vehicle to Chrysler.
    >>> Before doing so, I called them and asked what my options
    >>> were. I told them that I had a baby on the way, and that
    >>> the truck was not practical anymore, and I didn't want to
    >>> step up to a bigger monthly payment to get into something
    >>> else. They told me to just surrender the vehicle at my
    >>> nearest dealership, and that would work. I asked, "Will I
    >>> owe anything?" They said no, that I would just surrender
    >>> the vehicle and they would sell it again to recoup their
    >>> losses.
    >>>
    >>> Well, now I'm getting letters from W&A L.L.P. telling me
    >>> that they will sue. I don't own a house, or anything else
    >>> very valuable, no cars in my name. And I don't think they
    >>> can garnish my wages, can they?
    >>>
    >>> basically, I'm trying to find out how much validity I
    >>> should give these people. I don't want to have a judement
    >>> against me ... but I don't want to pay a $3k debt that I
    >>> didn't exactly agree to, either.

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 8/07/07, by 12.
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 8/07/07, by annon..
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 8/09/07, by HB.
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 8/11/07, by Skeptical.
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 10/24/07, by Edwin Fernandez.
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 10/24/07, by Edwin Fernandez.
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 10/25/07, by Gary Ricin.
  • Re: clarifiacation WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME, 10/25/07, by Gary Ricin.
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 11/08/07, by Joy.
  • Re: WOLPOFF & ABRAMSON threatening to SUE ME?, 11/10/07, by Gary Ricin.


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