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    Re: Wolpoff and Abramson Arbitration

    Posted by Gary Ricin on 10/22/07

    ...First thing I'd do is check the statute of lmitations in
    your geogrpahic location. Even at this stage, the court
    might disallow he "award" if he or she believes that it is
    no longer a legally enforceable debt.

    Failing that, you should expect that the Motion to Confirm
    and Arbitration Award will be decided on summarily by the
    judge, whether you show up to the Motion hearing or not.
    That means that the judge will give the thumbs up or down
    there and then. It's quite possible that creditor's attorney
    will even have been required to type up the confirmation of
    the "award" before coming to court.

    So, above all, stay involved and SHOW UP.

    However, you do have a period of time -- probably 15 to 20
    days, depending on where you are in the country -- to
    respond to the motion.

    If you still have time left to do so, (actually, even if you
    don't)I would respond with a vehement denial that you were
    ever properly served the notice of arbitration hearng. (I'm
    assuming you didn't get it.)

    The Court can not get involved in the actual arbitration
    hearing itself, but it does have jurisdiction -- authority --
    over the mechanics of the process, such as service of notice.

    Another common weakness of these Motions to Confirm an
    Arbitration Award is that, contrary to the Federal
    Arbitration Act (FAA), many of the creditors filing them do
    not possess the original agreement to arbitrate any disputes
    that arise between the account holder and the creditor.

    The FAA states that the agreement to arbitrate MUST
    accompany the Motion to Confirm an Arbitration award.
    However, the creditor can get around this if, as you
    apparently did, the consumer didn't complain about the
    arbitration award within the 30 days that Federal laws
    allows them to do so.

    Since it's a credit card debt, there probably exists a
    generic contract (a "credit card terms and conditions" kind
    of thing), which you may or may not have physically signed,
    depending on how you enrolled with the credit card.

    The agreement that you "signed" to arbitrate disputes
    between you and the lender was probably attached to this
    contract of adhesion. This means that it's attached to
    another contract as part of the (usually) boilerplate
    wording of the contract and that it is, most likely, a take-
    it-or-leave it contract.

    If you didn't physically sign anything, you will
    have "agreed" to the arbitration and the other terms of the
    credit card agreement generally the first time you used your
    card. (Your "signature" would have been by conduct: i.e. if
    you used the card then, by default, you agreed to the terms
    of the credit card agreement, including the arbitration
    clause.

    I would strongly advise you to go back in these postings and
    look at the Vermont decision to vacate that I posted a
    couple weeks ago.

    Unless you're in Vermont, you won't be able to use the
    decision as precedent. However, the judge cites some
    decisions that you will find very useful in preparing your
    adverse response to the Motion to Confirm an Arbitration
    Award.

    One thing I noticed which, if you don't mind, I'll
    repsectfully point out:

    All of the communications that you seem to have written to
    the credit card company seem to reinforce the notion that
    you owe this credit company money.

    If that's the way you feel, then that's fine. But, at the
    end of the day, it is the credit card company that has to
    prove that you owe them money. The last thing I'd want to do
    if I were you is to make this any easier for them.

    At this point, it's probably too late in your case to do
    much about this, since you're so far along in the process.
    However, even now, it can't hurt to stand up for yourself
    rather than assume that you've somehow done something wrong,
    which is for them to prove and not for you to assume.

    To summarise, then:

    1. Write a response to the Motion to Confirm an Arbitration
    Award stating spefically that service of notice of
    arbitration hearing was insufficient and that such
    deficiency warrants vacation of the "award."

    2. In your response (respectfully) demand that the creditor
    affirmatively associate you with the contract that the
    creditor is alleging you signed. Even at this late stage,
    the Court might well agree with you that the creditor should
    show that you agreed to arbitrate the dispute, either via
    the prodution of credit card statements showing that you
    used the card and that the card was actually yours, or by
    producing an affidavit (sworn statement) by someone who is
    familiar with your alleged agreement to the contract.

    Another, less likely, defense is that the arbitration award
    itself is deficient, either by way of not being properly
    sworn -- nobody actually swears to anything on the National
    Arbotration Forum's "awards," rather, there is a third
    person statement that "The person below..." or "The
    undersigned..." affirms that the award is genuine.

    Again, the NAF award has a signature from a dude named
    Kalinas who testifies that all of the points of the "award"
    (which he will not even have read) are accurate, including
    (usually) that the notice of hearing and award were properly
    served. Clearly, in your case, the notice of arbitration
    hearing was not properly served, since you weren't living at
    the place where it was allegedly sent.

    Remember, you can challenge service of the notice in the
    court.

    Personally, I would throw the lot at them and see if either
    anything sticks or you scare them off.

    The only certainty here is that, if you do nothing, you will
    owe these criminals not only what you borrowed plus fair
    interest, but also a crap load of fees etc that you would
    never had agreed to have paid per an arbitration agreement
    if you had ever had a choice over the matter.

    I also think that you are way beyond the point where you
    should enter into any agreement to pay the creditor anything
    as a compromise. (BEsides, this will reset the statute of
    limitations on the debt, which, if you haven't paid anything
    in years, might well have expired.)

    Again, please take the time to read the Vermont decision I
    posted.

    Good luck.

    Let us know what happens...

    On 10/22/07, Val Vigil wrote:
    > Please help. I am a resident physician (make very little
    > money working >80 hours per week as a physician in
    > training in the hospital) with a large debt, and VERY
    > little legal knowledge. I defaulted on credit card
    > payments for the first time in 2003, when my "special"
    > interest rate shot from 2.5&37; to 18&37;(total debt
    around
    > 28,000). I contacted the company ahead of time but of
    > course the answer was " you actually have to default on
    > payments before anyone can help you". Ridiculous! Anyhow,
    > since that time I have been periodically recieving demands
    > for payment in full, and have mailed MULTIPLE letters
    > pleading for payment plans, to no avail. I moved a year
    > ago, and apparently during that time they filed an ??
    > arbitration?? which was of course uncontested since I
    > didn't know it was going on. Now I have been served papers
    > to show up in court for a "petition to confirm arbitration
    > award". Can someone please help me understand what is
    > going on and the smartest way to handle it? I have no
    > access to a lump sum of money for this debt. ??
    > I would really appreciate some good advice. Cannot afford
    > legal assistance, don't even know if it would help.
    > Val Vigil vvigil@stanford.edu

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  • Wolpoff and Abramson Arbitration, 10/22/07, by Val Vigil.
  • Re: Wolpoff and Abramson Arbitration, 10/22/07, by Gary Ricin.


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