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    Re: Wolpoff & Abramson, NAF

    Posted by Gary Ricin on 11/17/07

    It sounds like the "award" against you was made about a year
    ago... If that's the case, then W&A might be bumping up
    against the expiration of the year in which they are allowed
    to confirm the award in Court per the Fed. Arbitration Act
    (Section9 below)

    Without a court confirmation, an arbitration "award" -- even
    a likely fraudulent one, such as those NAF sells to W&A --
    is not worth the paper its printed on, unless you
    voluntarily agree to abide by it.

    If the year has passed, then you must tell the judge this if
    and when you chellenge the award for the many grounds that
    you've already established. The matter could well be settled
    right there.

    Just wondering: Have you ever admitted that there is any
    agreement binding on you to arbitrate, and is W&A able to
    produce that agreement? If the answer to either of these
    questions is no, then, that, again, is a very important and
    powerful defense against the "Award."

    W&A MUST produce a binding contract to arbitrate before a
    Court will confirm an arbitration "award." But you might
    need to remind the judge of this, since many judges simply
    rubberstamp arbitration "awards."

    It is extremely likely that the NAF has delivered
    the "award" via an electronic data stream, and that there is
    no hardcopy agreement that can be produced, except for a
    ontract of adhesion (a pre-printed contract that you cannot
    negotiate) that W&A will then have to prove applies to you.
    (Go back and review my post about the case in Vermont for
    more on this.)

    If I were you, I'd troll through the Fed. Arbitration Act
    (link below) and your own state's Arbitration Act and I'd
    focus closely on what W&A are obligated to do, as well as on
    what you need to do. Remember, W&A are bringing this
    action, not you, so it is up to them to justify it.

    Finally, I'd be very skeptical about agreeing to any kind of
    reduced payment plan, particularly if W&A's position is as
    weak as it seems to be.

    Also, W&A is famous for making these "deals" and, when the
    debtor satisfies their terms and pays the reduced amount in
    full, W&A will sell the remainder of the full amount to
    another debt collection company, who will be able to drag
    you through arbitration/a lawsuit again, if they want to.

    Whatever else you do, under no circumstanes trust W&A and/or
    NAF.

    Good luck!


    "Section 9. Award of arbitrators; confirmation;
    jurisdiction; procedure
    If the parties in their agreement have agreed that a
    judgment of the court shall be entered upon the award made
    pursuant to the arbitration, and shall specify the court,
    then at any time within one year after the award is made any
    party to the arbitration may apply to the court so specified
    for an order confirming the award, and thereupon the court
    must grant such an order unless the award is vacated,
    modified, or corrected as prescribed in sections 10 and 11
    of this title." SOURCE:
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode09/usc_sec_09_00
    000009----000-.html

    On 11/13/07, Terry wrote:
    > Sent a Cease Communications to W&A, that didn't work.
    > Sent a Debt Validation letter (more than once) and that
    > didn't work. I was delivered a Arbitration Notice about a
    > year ago from the NAF and W&A. I responded to the
    > arbitration and demanded proof where I agreed to be part
    > of any arbitration agreement between W&A and myself. This
    > went back and forth for a couple of months. I was
    > surprised (insert sarcasm here) when the NAF sent me a
    > letter stating in favor of W&A. By the way, each letter I
    > sent was certified with return receipt to both W&A and the
    > NAF. About a year has passed now and you guessed it, W&A
    > want to sue me for award of the arbitration. I filed a
    > written response with the court house well within the time
    > frame. Living in Texas I know the SOL is 4 years. It
    > has not reached that point yet. What happens now? Once
    > the attorney(?) for W&A receive notice of my response will
    > they then proceed with a court date and if so, will they
    > try and make a last ditch effort to settle? They have
    > never validated the debt so how do I really know it's mine?

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • Wolpoff & Abramson, NAF, 11/13/07, by Terry.
  • Re: Wolpoff & Abramson, NAF, 11/14/07, by Prairie Dawg.
  • Re: Wolpoff & Abramson, NAF, 11/17/07, by Gary Ricin.
  • Re: Wolpoff & Abramson, NAF, 11/26/07, by terry.
  • Re: Wolpoff & Abramson, NAF, 11/28/07, by Gary Ricin.


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