Re: Starbuck's ruling

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Sharwinston, you stated,

If I want to gift a tip to a specific person, I hand it
to him/her. It is then his/hers to do with any way s/he
sees fit.

Not in most states. In most states the employer is
allowed to take it away from the employee and share it
with other workers so the employer won't have to pay
these other workers out of his own pocket. It's called
employer mandated tip pooling. And while you and many
other people think they can simply give anyone they want
a tip and that person can keep it as their own, our
federal governmnent is currently allowing businesses to
steal your tip and the tips of others who attempt to tip
specific workers. This is a fact Jack.

When you tip, you have no choice but to tip every worker
the employers wants to include in the sharing of your tip.
It should be your right, but business owners have been
successful at bribing our government into ignoring our
constitutional rights so those who are willing to pay off
our government officials, judges and politicians can steal
the tips customers are presenting certain workers in the
service industry.

So when you leave a tip on a table who the hell is it for.
You know as well as I the employee will have a hard time
proving it was for him. Why do you want to jack these
workers around like that. There employer will control the
tip to his interests which would probably mean he will
share it among everyone working at the joint so he won't
have to pay any of them much in the way of wages.

On 5/09/08, sharwinston wrote:
> Absolutely not true. My act of leaving a tip on a table is most
> definitely not "carelessness." Nor is it "unintentional" It is a
> knowing, voluntary and deliberate act.
>
> I have never, ever have to tip. That is my choice.
> Furthermore: Once the money leaves my possession (leave it on table,
> put it in a jar, etc.), I have relinquished all control as to what
> happenes to any tip I might choose to leave.
>
> If I want to gift a tip to a specific person, I hand it to him/her. It
> is then his/hers to do with any way s/he sees fit.
>
> On 4/25/08, George wrote:
>>
>> Leaving a tip on a table or bar is initiated by the carelessness of
>> the customer. While leaving a tip on a table or at a bar is clearly a
>> unintentional carelessness