Re: Starbuck's ruling

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I guess you are right. Tip jars don't deceive customers into a false
perception that customers have no righ to determine who should receive
their tip and what amount they should receive. Judges are the one
deceiving customers into a false perseption that they have no right to
determine who should receive their tip and what amount they should
receive. That's why managers at Starbucks can no longer receive a tip
from a customer. Judges in California have ruled that because state
laws state that agents of the employer are prohibitted from taking any
part of the tips bestowed upon an employee, such a law should infinge
on the constitutional rights of the consumer and deprive him his
liberty to tip a manager.

The truth of the matter is, state laws simply instruct that mandagers
are prohibtted from taking tips customers have given an employee.
State laws do not and would not attempt to suggest that American
citizens cannot tip a manager or agent of the employer. The reason
California judges are misinterpretting state laws in such a manner is
to support their unsubstantiated opinion that employers are allowed to
collect and control the customer's tip. By deceptively suggeting
through court rulings that state laws govern who can or can't be
included in a tip pool, the public is deceived into a false perception
that employers are not confiscating and controllng their tips. Instead
customers are fraudulently deceived into the notion that the courts,
along with state laws are governing their tips.

Is it fraud to suggest that state laws would have the authority to
govern its citizen's personal property when our constitution has
provisions specifically designed to protect against such governing?

Truth makes many appeals, not the least of which is its power to
shock.
Jules Renard

On 4/25/08, Martha wrote:
> On 4/25/08, George wrote:
>> ....
>> Isn't it fraud to deceive consumers into a false perception that
>> they have no right to determine, for themselves, who should
>> receive their tip and what amount that person should receive?
>>
>> Isn't that exactly what tip jars do?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
> No.