Re: Response to Conanylizer

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nobody cares, man........ nobody cares.

On 5/20/09, George wrote:
> If I am an idiot for not knowing that property is often
> taken in court from those to whom it was given, then please
> explain a case, other than one relating to tips, where
> property was taken from someone in court without any
> evidence to back up the ruling that such property should
> be taken. My point is, shouldn't there be evidence to
> support the taking of what someone has been given. Should
> the legality of a taking really solely on the opinion of
> judges?
>
> In one notable California case concerning forced tip
> pooling, an employer was allowed to take tips away from
> a waitress so that the tips could be shared among other
> types of workers. Shouln't it be the restaurant's burden
> to prove that restaurant customers intended that the tips
> they have given are to be divided among the waiter, the
> busboy and the bartender?
>
> If someone took your property, wouldn't you want the
> courts to expect some kind of evidence to substantiate
> that the taking of your property was legal?
>
>
> On 5/19/09, Chewtoy wrote:
>> On 5/19/09, George wrote:
>>> The injustice of the situation is, when an employee
>>> receives a tip from a customer, his employer is now
>>> able to take the tip away from him with the excuse
>>> that it might have been intended for someone else.
>>>
>>> Imagine someone stealing what another person has
>>> given you and when you go before a judge, the judge
>>> looks you straight in the eye and says "what was given
>>> you wasn't intended for you, therefore I must rule
>>> in favor of the party who took what was given you....
>>
>> We're back to the reasoned debate phase. What happened, your meds kick in? Get a
>> revised 'script?
>>
>> 1. Property is often taken in court from those to whom it was given. Visit bankruptcy
>> or family court to see property taken away.... All the time. You're an idiot for not
>> knowing this, George.
>>
>> 2. You want a lawsuit over every tip (you idiot!)? That's why no one (no judge, not us)
>> care about who wanted to give you (or anyone) any particular tip. We need a general
>> rule. The courts have agreed the general rule is: almost no one cares who they tip. So,
>> even if a particular tip was given to you, fk you, it goes into the pool.
>>
>> Want to jump to insults? Am I part of the conspiracy? Go fkursf. I ain't seen a dime
>> from you, and you're not getting anything else.
>>
>> To all other non-George posters: sorry for responding; Chewtoy out.