Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights

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First off 00 i am not trying to get out of it. what i am saying is that
the mother of the children should also be paying child support. Second
the grandparents when they accepted the custody of the child from dhs
was offer money to help with raising the children from dhs called
kinship care. but they turned it down cause their daughter would have
had to move out. and they didnt want dhs involve anylonger. so what i am
saying they turned down extra money dhs offer to pay in my stead so i
could joined the army so their daughter could live with them and go to
college. i just think it is unequaly fair

On 9/22/07, 00 wrote:
> I think you should invest in a vasectomy.
> From what I gleaned from your confusing post, you already had twins
> that were taken away from you and now you have another newborn child
> with yet another woman. That is three children that you have told us
> about. How many children do you think you can support and nurture?
> Child support is based on statuatory calculations. I would be
surprised
> if anyone here would be supportive of you trying to get out of
> providing for all of your children. I believe that the grandmother
> could actually sue you for her time and expenses in raising your
twins.
> That would be much more than the court ordered child support.
> You also contradict yourself in saying that your ex is just going to
> college to "have fun", but you are going to college to "better my
self".
> Doesn't she have a right to try to better herself so that hopefully
she
> can raise your children properly?
> And what new father would sign up for the military--i.e. get shipped
> out somewhere-- when he knows he wouldn't be around to actually help
in
> raising TWINS! One is hard enough, but TWO!
> Get real.
>
> On 9/22/07, Thomas M bossard wrote:
>> Hello my name is Thomas Bossard. I am going through much what is
>> describe here. My ex and i have twin boys together but yet my exs
>> mother have custody of the children. and yet my exes mother took
>> only me to court for child support. even though her daughter is also
>> a parent of these kids she ony took me and only i have to pay. but
>> yet her daughter can go to college and have fun mean while i work
>> two job trying to make money to support my self and my new born
>> daughter while trying to go to collge to better my self.Well trying
>> to do all this i fell behind in my childsupport due to cut backs at
>> my jobs. now the children grand mother who has custody is fileing a
>> complainT AGINST ME FOR NOT PAYING AS MUCH AS I SHOULD WHEN I AM
>> BARELY MAKEING IT NOW. I have no oney for a lawyer and feel like my
>> rights and equality is being viloated. let me explain why the grand
>> mother has custody. i was signing up for the military ad had to run
>> earns and go to drills for training so i had a friend who i thought
>> i could trust with them. but i was wrong he drop one of my sons and
>> hurt him pretty seriously and i got the blame. dhs took my kids from
>> me and put them in protected custody till the investagation was
>> complete.mean while i ask if it was ok to go ahead and enlist and
>> ship off for training for the army dhs said ok. while i was own
>> their they sent letters to me and the children mother saying that we
>> are listed as the perps for now if you want to repeal write a letter
>> to them with in 45 days well my ex never sent me that letter when i
>> got it it was already two months late. i want to all the courts
>> cases to get the kids back. put of child cae well finally their was
>> a deal the grandparents could take them if they were able to fully
>> support them on their own. DHS OFFER THE A program called kinship
>> care where they give them money to help take care of the children
>> but their daughter who was 20 couldnt live with them anymore but
>> they turn it down. a fewmonths later i was nail with child support.
>> i believe this is a violation of my right cause at the previous
>> hearing where they got custody theysaid they could take care of them
>> fully without help and turn down kinship care so their daughter
>> could live with them. now they are paying for their daughter college
>> with my money i am trying to save up so i can better my self. i have
>> no lawyer no money for any if anyone can help me please contact me
>> at 215 333 4025 or email at thomas.m.bossard@us.army.mil. or mail me
>> at 7128 edmund st. philadelphia pa 19135
>>
>>
>> On 12/08/06, Jennifer wrote:
>>> I have to agree with you. I think that every man should have
>>> equal rights when it comes to parenting.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/09/02, Mike wrote:
>>>> To the authors of these notations:
>>>> Men do have a right to consent according to the Constitution.
>>>> If a man has accepted his role as a father then yes he is bound
>>>> to that privledge (commonly irresponsibly uttered as
>>>> responsibility thanks to child support and sole custody awards).
>>>> If a man simply had sexual intercourse with a woman she
>>>> does not have the right to decide if he will become responsible
>>>> for that child if she chooses to conceive. The 14th amendment
>>>> guarantees equal protection of laws. Also equal liberties
>>>> (privileges and immunities) found under article 4, section 2,
>>>> and second sentence.
>>>> This brings to light the matter of child support...
>>>> Since parenting is an equal right under the Constitution how can
>>>> a woman or man assume they can seek sole custody? If both
>>>> parents are congruent Citizens the Constitution does not support
>>>> and flatly denies such an award of privilege. 14th amendment,
>>>> section 1.
>>>> This would indicate that parents must equally divide the
>>>> parenting role... like it or not that is the only fair way to
>>>> handle it. This is also in "the Childs best interest" the child
>>>> will see unity and not be divided from one parent or the other.
>>>> Your identification of a deadbeat dad... Stop! Listen to
>>>> what you just said and think about the current conditions. Turn
>>>> them 180 degrees. You cannot walk in a mans shoes. A man is
>>>> flatly denied custody and is slated to become an involuntary
>>>> servant. Is this what he agreed to? No it isn't, he agreed to be
>>>> a father and now you have allowed the courts to strip him of his
>>>> equal right. How would you feel if this happened to you... you
>>>> would be devastated? Don't believe for one second that a man
>>>> does not have feelings. Men do have feelings but they are not by
>>>> custom allowed to show them. This is precisely why many men act
>>>> as they do. For men who do not act this way... good for you but
>>>> don’t judge another guy because your situation may have differed
>>>> greatly and perhaps you didn’t give a rats about your
>>>> relationship. You had better wizen up, you are a victim also and
>>>> your life is drastically affected by legislation in this issue
>>>> regardless of your actions. Your child is being subjected to the
>>>> nuance of your unworthy role. Think about that impact and how
>>>> your Childs views will be forged. So... until men’s rights are
>>>> honored equally regarding this issue don't call another father a
>>>> dead beat dad when he has been literally raped of his most
>>>> sacred role in life! You cannot assume a father is a "dead beat"
>>>> until he has been afforded equal rights and has then dishonored
>>>> his role as a father. Until then… hold your judgment for the
>>>> creator’s courtroom.
>>>> Many of you are quick to Judge but you never think through
>>>> the whole issue before you speak. Think about that... you’re
>>>> getting screwed any way you cut it. As women you think you are
>>>> getting a good deal, your really getting the raw end of the
>>>> stick, so is the child and so is the father. You all loose.
>>>> Unless the legislation honors equality and equal rights we as a
>>>> nation all lose. Some how some way we all get shafted with the
>>>> current legislation.
>>>> I took the liberty to expound upon this topic much deeper.
>>>> Look uner the other Mikes entry.