Re: Details....details for prarie dawg

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Well, I'm not a Pennsylvania lawyer. Perhaps one of the local bar
with some insight into this could comment.

Reading between the lines, it looks like you were ordered to some
sort of emergency custody hearing with children's services or
what ever they call them in your area and your children were
either removed from the home or custody was given to another-a
former spouse or relative.
You say the hearing officer did not provide you with a report.
It's a matter of record and you are entitled to a copy.
You also say that the judge signed off on the hearing officer's
order and that you were not notified of this.

I can tell you that in this area you would not be notified of a
judge signing an order-that would have been presented by a
children's service or a county attorney.

You also say you appealed to superior court, but you do not get
to make an end run around the court of record. My guess was you
may have not exhausted your administrative appeals and otherwise
followed the proper appeal procedure, and that is probably why
your appeal was summarily denied.

You are saying that the child services officer is not legally
authorized to enter an order but it sounds to me like the source
of the authority is the judge who signed off on it. Anyone can
write an order but the judge is the person who gives it force and
effect.

I can tell you that you will not get anywhere arguing that
somebody is impersonating a public official or alleging collusion
or alleging fraud on the court without a higher order of proof
than you have shown so far.

My guess is that there was a good reason child services got
involved in your life and that is something you haven't talked
about.

On 11/06/03, annono wrote:
> On 11/05/03, Prairie Dawg wrote:
>> Who what when where why how?
>> What court order
>> what jurisdiction
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/04/03, onnono wrote:
>>> An order was entered by a hearing officer who I found out
>>> later was not legally licensed to be a hearing officer, yet
>>> judge signed the order when I never went to court for a
>>> hearing upon that order. Order was signed July 1st, 1998
>>> but I was never notified to appear that day for a hearing,
>>> How can they get away with this? What can I do about it ?
>
>
>>I was ordered to see this child custody hearing officer by a
> judge in my county, whom never gave me a copy of her report as
> she is supposed to do according the the Pa. R.C.P., she never
> did. She also let people into the room w/out my consent, she
> also spoke to the children w/out an attorney present in their
> behalf. She then made up an order when both parties never
> agreed which changed the original custody order. This judge
> signed it and is enforcing it. I never had a hearing before
> this judge on July 1st, 1998, the date the order is signed. I
> filed an appeal to Superior Court but this judge ordered that
> my Appeal was denied. How can a lower court judge deny an
> Appeal to the Superior Court ? How can he take my girls in Aug.
> when my Superior Court Notice of Appeal was in process,
> everything should of been stayed. The Superior Court protected
> this judge by saying I didn't have a denovo hearing. I did have
> a denovo hearing on this matter, but the judge was ordering me
> to comply w/ things that were not on any order in existence. I
> served him w/ my notice of appeal at the denovo hearing. I have
> appealed so many times to no avail ! I have proven that this
> hearing officer is not a licensed attorney as required by the
> R.C.P., she is only a caseworker for C.Y.S.. Fraud has been
> committed upon the court not only in my case but every cusdoty
> case in that county where the county used her as a hearing
> officer. She is immpersonating a public offical which is a
> crime. Yet they are getting away with it ! The Judical conduct
> Board protects them of their own kind, so who do I go to above
> them ?

Re: More Details, 11/10/03, by annono.

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