Re: has anyone experienced something similar?

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On 4/27/07, Carol wrote:
> On 4/27/07, M'sta Mikey wrote:
>> On 4/27/07, SNY wrote:
>>> On 4/27/07, jane wrote:
>>>> we have a teenage son who is currently in fostercare
>>>> because he was truant to a few classes in school. he has a
>>>> developmental disability but the school would not
>>> recognize
>>>> his 504 plan. they put him on a PINS diversion. of course
>>>> part of the PINS conditions were to not get "in trouble"
>>> at
>>>> school. when he couldn't keep up with the school work he
>>>> was told he was lazy and unmotivated and written up. well,
>>>> once we was written up he was violated on the PINS
>>>> diversion and put on a PINS petition. same thing happened
>>>> again -- still cannot keep up with the school work due to
>>>> the developmental disability -- so he gets violated again
>>>> and put into fostercare. he did not go with a family
>>>> member, he was put directly into a residential childrens
>>>> home. we have been trying for the past 3 months to get him
>>>> back home. he has done well in the different school
>>> setting
>>>> because the classes are much smaller and it is slower
>>>> paced. the County has just decided they made a mistake in
>>>> placing our son at the residential setting but will not
>>> let
>>>> him come home. this has been a very frustrating 8 months
>>>> and his dad is very angry with the situation. the County
>>>> has decided to use dad's anger against him and has
>>> conveyed
>>>> to us there is nothing we can do to get our son returned
>>> to
>>>> us. they are willing to give him to a family member with
>>>> restricted access to his dad but we find this
>>> unacceptable.
>>>> our son's home visits, to this point, have been spent with
>>>> us at our home, with no incidents. our lawyer keeps going
>>>> along with the system rather than fighting any of this.
>>> our
>>>> son's law gaurdian seems to represent the County better
>>>> than our son. we want to fire both and hire new to see if
>>>> we can get better results. has anyone experienced
>>> something
>>>> similar? the bias against the dad is palpitable in the
>>>> courtroom. dad has no criminal record, he is not abusive,
>>>> he does not drink; yet we have heard rumors that this is
>>>> what is being said by County workers involved in the case.
>>>> what can we do???
>>> I child does not violate pins because he can't keep up with
>>> work..you are leaving something out that he has done or did
>>> not do either way you want to look at at.You do dont get put
>>> on pins because you are truant to "a couple" of classes,this
>>> is for kids who CONTINUOUSLY skip school,get into
>>> trouble,break the law ect.You said yourself that your
>>> husband has shown anger so if he is having outburst then he
>>> is indeed showing them he has anger issues and has given
>>> them reason to doubt his parenting abilities.A law gaurdian
>>> is there for the best interest of the child and could care
>>> less about anything else...it's their job to do what is best
>>> for your child.Your son sounds like he should be in a
>>> special education class and most schools have them and if
>>> they do not they have to make arrangements for him to get
>>> special education it's the law in the "no child left behind"
>>> act.You should be having regular meetings with the school
>>> board and counselors to discuss his EIP or individual
>>> education plan...a plan set up to best address your sons
>>> issues to help correct them.It sounds as if you are putting
>>> all your sons missbehavior on his developmental dissability
>>> and all the problems on the teachers and court.The fact that
>>> you refuse to make your son take responsibility for what he
>>> does is part of the problem...one of the biggest parts.Legal
>>> advice is useless until you wake up.
>>
>> I concur and as you said, something is not being told here. My
>> daughter was a special needs student and was enrolled in the
>> appropriate EIP classes and graduated 2 years ago. She too
>> missed a 'few' classes but was NEVER sent to foster care,
>> written up, or otherwise...NEVER!
>>
>> Somethings amiss...
> I'm not sure what PINS is. in school suspension? alternative
> school? a student can't get an IEP unless s/he has a qualifying
> disability. OP said the child had a 504 which says he has a
> plan to deal with certain things but there is nothing mandatory
> in a 504. If the kid is truant, the court may find him/her
> dependant and remove from the home but I've never heard of it
> for only truancy, there's usually more to it than that.

Pins is "person in need of supervision" a minor who has shown that
he/she cannot go through a normal childs day/life without getting
into trouble/skipping school ect.A child on pins is usually only
allowed to go to school and go home and has a curfew that cannot
be broken.If the child does not abide by the pins rules and
continue their "behaviors" then they usually end up in a foster
care system...it's also a reflecting statement that says "this
childs parents cannot control him" whether they want to or not.A
child is not put on pins for one or two class skippings this is
for kids who over time have not behaved in the appropriate manner
for example not attending school, stealing,running away from
home,breaking the law,violent acts ect.If your child has a
learning dissability than it will be obvious,rare is the parent
saying "my child has a dissability" and he is tested and he does
not..it is usually the opposite,a parent thinks their child is
fine and teachers pick up on a possible dissability and the child
is tested.Children can't cause trouble and then blame it on a
dissability all the time.Thats how you get adults who do the same
thing and then nobody will have to be responsable for their
actions,commit murder and then just say you got a LD and your
free.Foster care systems are overrun with kids and so they do not
add more just for kicks,a child ends up there for a reason.