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    Re: Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice

    Posted by Alain, alopez@law.gwu.edu, on 12/02/03

    David,

    I am a 2L law student at George Washington and although I am
    not pursuing an IP career, I have many friends who are. This
    is what I have learned from them relating to IP:

    1. Go to the best law school possible: Someone else has
    already said in this message board that the market is
    flooded with lawyers. This is true. You need to distinguish
    yourself as much as possible. You need the best law school
    you can get into and the best grades. By the same token, I
    have friends at 2nd tier law schools that have done very
    well academically and their job opportunities are very good.
    Having said that, if you can get into a first tier law
    school, your life will be easier for it.

    2. Distinguish yourself: Although the market IS in fact
    flooded with lawyers, you have something great going for you
    already: you will have an engineering degree. Having an
    engineering background (or chemistry, or computer science)
    is absolutely necessary to be recruited in the big D.C.
    patent/IP law firms. Do you know how many of the GW Law
    class has engineering degrees? A very small number. The same
    probably can be said about other law schools. You are in a
    completely different market from the vast majority of law
    students as a result of this fact.

    3. Take the patent bar exam BEFORE going to law school: A
    good friend of mine goes to American law school. Her grades
    are average. She has an EE degree and took the patent bar
    before law school. During her first summer in law school she
    worked as a patent examiner in a law firm. When recruiting
    season came around for real jobs she was ceaselessly
    recruited. Now she is working at the top patent law firm in
    DC. Why? She showed her dedication to IP/patent early on.
    Having passed the patent bar and actually having worked in
    the field made her stand out above the crowd. I personally
    believe that although grades are crucially important, taking
    this type of initiative can be of tremendous help in fueling
    you career.

    4. Learn about the field and take action in it: Let me give
    you an example. That friend from the paragraph above also
    took time from her busy 1L schedule to apply for membership
    in the ABA’s IP Law Journal. This journal is the national IP
    journal and is published by GW and the ABA. Membership is
    via a writing competition open to everyone (you do NOT need
    to be GW law student to apply). She did the writing
    competition and got in. Again, completely based on writing
    (no grades, no law school ranking) and yet it looked
    fantastic on her resume. That is the type of success
    attitude you need.

    5. Location: Here I am biased. I think there a few other
    places for a law student better than DC. Why? Because the
    opportunities here for lawyers are enormous. As a patent/IP
    law student, you have many internship opportunities. You
    intern at the federal Patent Office, you have many courts in
    which to clerk, and there is no shortage of IP law firms.
    Unless you are interested in corporate/finance law (New York
    is best for that) I think there is just no place like DC for
    law school.

    6. Part time law school: Here, too, I have some pretty
    strong opinions. I think you should NOT go to law school
    part-time. Law school is a big commitment; it needs full
    effort. Having a day job while tackling your first year
    courses will hurt you. If you want to be competitive, go at
    it with all. Second, going part time will put you in a
    completely different crowd. In a way, you will miss the “law
    school” experience. Part-timers and night students are
    usually older professionals or people with families. I don’t
    know you or you age or point in life. But if you are 21-23 I
    think you will regret going part time. Sometimes you can
    help other people better by helping yourself first.

    7. The Patent/IP market: My first hand experience from very
    closely watching the recruiting process is that if your
    grades are good and you have an engineering background, you
    are hot property for patent law firms. I see people get
    actively recruited like crazy if they fit that description.
    Whether you need more than a B.S. to fall in that crowd I
    doubt it. No one I know going to Finnegan, Pennie Edmonds,
    or other large IP firms has a masters. My recommendation?
    Graduate, get a job where you can apply you skills, work for
    a year there, then go to law school. Make sure you pass the
    patent bar before coming to law school. Once in law school
    get the best grades you can. I really think people that have
    a technical degrees and an interest in IP/Patent have an
    edge over the rest of us law students.

    Finally, go to the websites of the large IP firms. There are
    not that many and you can find them fairly easily. Research
    their recruiting section. Research the bios of their
    attorneys. See if you can distinguish a common career path.
    Even call them. I am sure some of them will be willing to
    spend a few minutes with you on the phone (pick recent
    graduates that can sympathize with you). And finally, take
    initiative. The fact that you asked for advice so early on
    shows you have initiative already.

    Good luck.

    A.


    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice, 11/15/03, by David.
  • Re: Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice, 11/16/03, by Kevin.
  • Re: Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice, 11/16/03, by David.
  • Re: Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice, 11/16/03, by David.
  • Re: Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice, 11/19/03, by Kevin.
  • Re: Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice, 12/02/03, by Alain.
  • Re: Future Patent Law Studnet in need of experienced advice, 12/06/03, by lmnpdq.


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