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Re: RE: DC Bar and Novus
Posted by Crown Prince on 1/25/08

    Oh my God, gag me with a spoon! This is hilarious.

    I thought we settled this issue. The guy who now says he will no longer post to this
    forum refuses to get a letter signed by the D.C. bar on paper. He is relying on e-mails---
    very tricky. Again, if he went to law school, he would know that...

    What you "think" the bar will accept and what they will accept are two very different
    things. Again, if you went to law school and took a contracts class, then you would know
    that...

    A couple other things:

    1. You can NEVER practice with a non-bar JD. SSA disability non-attorney reps (I have
    done such work and won in the past) are not attorneys and can never "practice" law. We
    even had disclaimers in our fee agreements that acknowledge this. If you want
    to "practice" law, then you should really get a law license... There is a niche for such
    persons, but they are not attorneys, and do not "practice." Try putting the
    word "practice of law" on your business card and see how fast the DOJ locks you up.
    2. A JD from West Coast (not the non-bar JD, but the bar track one) is different because
    it will ALLOW YOU TO SIT FOR THE CA BAR EXAM!!!!!!!! This is the difference. Any idiot
    can tell you that (or maybe not). Believe me---I have failed the baby bar. Twice. If
    anyone is looking for a loophole, it is me. But don't be stupid.

    I am hopeful for a loophole, but am more hopeful that states will offer some sort of
    reciprocity in the future with regard to CA distance learning law grads who passed the CA
    bar. That would be realistic. Getting a law degree from a school based in Idaho which
    relocated to Alabama and said it was never in Idaho is fishy to me. Read about "Alabama
    State University" law school on wikipedia---it is a diploma mill. Really. Check it out.

    Crown Prince

    On 1/25/08, Greg wrote:
    > Can a non-bar J.D. practice any sort of law? eg. federal law or social security? Or
    > does one need to pass the bar in a state? I am new to this and do not know much about
    > DL law schools. Also, I thought that non-bar law school were going to be abolished
    > (according to other threads I have read on this website). Thank you.
    >
    >
    > On 1/25/08, steve wrote:
    >> I don・t think it really matters whether the courses are offered through J.D. or
    >> LL.M. program, as long as they are subjects tested on the DC Bar. For example,
    >> Golden Gate University allows its LL.M. US Legal Studies students to take J.D.
    >> classes as electives that include constitutional law, contracts, torts, property,
    >> and etc.
    >>
    >> Anyway, that wasn・t exactly what Crown Prince and I were arguing about. Crown >>
    Prince didn・t believe that a Novus J.D. + 26 ABA credits could qualify one to sit
    >> for the DC Bar. Perhaps it・s question for this forum. What makes a non-bar J.D.
    >> from West Coast different from a Novus J.D.?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 1/25/08, P wrote:
    >>> "--": you've explained it just fine.
    >>>
    >>> steve: i know of two persons who are practicing in DC who obtained their JD
    >>> through distance learning (neither of them, i may add, has a "non" bar JD). both
    >>> accumulated the 26 credits through in-person 1L and 2L courses. i've never met or
    >>> heard of anyone who became qualified to sit for DC with LLM courses.
    >>>
    >>> hey, i'd love to be shown to be wrong. but many people, on this board and
    >>> elsewhere, have researched this with great diligence. again, look to the policy of
    >>> DC and what their intentions are.
    >>>
    >>> and, please, someone, prove us wrong.
    >>>
    >>> -P
    >>>
    >>> On 1/24/08, -- wrote:
    >>>> On 1/24/08, steve wrote:
    >>>>> Hi Crown Prince,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.newjurist.com/The-D.C-BAR-Option.htm
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Check this out.
    >>>>> The author holds non-bar J.D. from West Coast and is a DC attorney.
    >>>>> I hope this can convince you.
    >>>>
    >>>> We had several posts on this last week. This guy went to an ABA school to pick
    >>>> up the 26 credits as a 1L after graduating from West Coast. There is no
    >>>> question that a DL JD + 26 ABA credits will get you in to take the DC bar -- but
    >>>> the only way to get the 26 ABA credits is at a brick and mortar ABA 1L school.
    >>>> A DL or even brick and mortar LL.M will not get you the 26 ABA credits you need
    >>>> no matter how you try to interpret the LL.M classes.
    >>>>
    >>>> You will still have to do first year (1L) at an ABA school. CP can probably
    >>>> explain this better than I did.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>> On 1/24/08, Crown Prince wrote:
    >>>>>> There is one small problem: IT DOESN"T WORK! I dare you to either provide a
    >>>>>> letter signed by the dept. of admissions at the DC bar, or provide me the
    >>>>>> name of one, just one attorney who has done it this way. The problem is that
    >>>>>> you can do neither. Seriously. Get your facts straight. E-mails from joe
    >>>>> blow
    >>>>>> probably are not legit. You might have learned that if you went to lawschool
    >>>>>> or had access to Nexis-Lexis or Westlaw.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> No one would like a loophole more than me. Anyone who knows my story can
    >>>>> tell
    >>>>>> you that I really want to be admitted to the bar. I might not be great at
    >>>>>> taking the baby bar, but I don't live in the 'Twilight Zone."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Crown Prince
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 1/23/08, steve wrote:
    >>>>>>> Hi Crown Prince,
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> If West Coast non-bar J.D. + 26 ABA credits works for DC Bar, I don't see
    >>>>>>> why it can't work for Novus graduates.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>

     
     

 
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