Re: WCSL Bar Pass Rate actually dismall

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Pass Rates in DL since 1997
All Takers # Takers # Passed % Passed
WCSL 6 28 21.43%
Concord 204 643 31.73%
Abraham Lincoln 57 524 10.88%
NWCU 61 333 18.32%
Taft 131 635 20.63%

First Timers # Takers # Passed % Passed
WCSL 3 15 20.00%
Concord 169 417 40.53%
Abraham Lincoln 26 175 14.86%
NWCU 34 145 23.45%
Taft 65 252 25.79%

WCSL does not have enough data to really compare, but ranks 2nd
to Concord among this group in all takers, and 2nd to last in
first timers among this group. Abraham Lincoln is dismal among
the group with only 10.88% passing among all 524 takers!
Concord has respectable numbers for both first timers and
overall. I don't have the stats for Oakbrook, but I believe
they have respectable pass rates as well. It's clearly a choice
each person has to make when choosing DL, and individual results
depend on individual efforts. If I had the dough and was just
starting out in DL I would choose Concord. I am a WCSL transfer-
out student myself, but not interested in completing work
already studied...Concord will make you complete at least 50%
with them. Don't be fooled an education from DL law schools
including Concord is not an accepted education among the higher
circles. You will be treated like an underling, you will defend
your education your entire career if it comes up among ABA
graduates. It is not equivalent to an ABA education.
Massachusetts does not approve of Concord DL education per se,
it depends on the individual merits. The ABA probably will
never accept an entirely online education in its present form.
You cannot get the same experience as a brick and mortar school
at a DL school. You make this choice at your own risk. I did
myself for two reasons 1. economic 2. flexibility. I am the
breadwinner of a wife and kids, I have a high level job that
requires several hours overtime, I cannot attend a fixed
schedule at a brick and mortar. I was accepted to a 1st tier
ABA school, but had no choice unless I wanted to give up my
salary and live with my family in an RV or something. It's an
uphill battle no matter which way you look at it. A DL graduate
has very little chance of even becoming a DA, and I wouldn't
want that pay cut anyway. 3rd Tier ABA graduates even have a
hard time finding employment as an attorney. You have even less
chance than them, the accredited, and the unaccredited law
schools. You will have to build your own practice, be very good
at networking, and find a mentor to help you practice law. Good
Luck!

As far as a defamation/libel suit it's probably more headache
than it's worth to file one, it's even more moot to argue one
here with all of the wannabe lawyers who haven't passed the bar
themselves arguing their sides. If there are any practicing
lawyer's here they are really wasting time arguing against DL
law school, and my sense is they are insecure somehow that a DL
graduate poses some economic threat to them, and of course they
need to defend themselves. Listen to the oral arguments in the
Massachusetts case of the Concord student you'll hear the same
undertones from the bar examiner. He goes just short of calling
the Concord graduate an idiot outright. It's what you will face
as a DL graduate. However, researching a potential suit might
be a good exercise in trial advocacy or moot court if you wanted
to pursue it off of this board. But the case probably has a
snowball's chance in he!! of success in any case.

On 1/27/09, Well, not quite wrote:
> Actual pass rates from the Bar Statistics are:
>
> October 2008 BB passing rates:
> WCSL 29&37;
> Concord 14&37;
> Taft 17&37;
>
> For both 2008 Bar Exams passing rates:
> WCSL 27&37;
> Concord 30&37;
> Taft 19&37;
>
> Not a lot of difference between the "Harvard" of distance
> learning and the poor step child except that the student
> walks away with a lot more money in the pocket. Interesting
> what happens when the facts instead of emotion are brought
> to light.
>
>
> On 1/27/09, ABA graduate wrote:
>> No, it does not.
>>
>> Concord, Taft and NWCU have a much
>> better Bar pass rate and MORE practicing
>> attorneys admitted to the Calif Bar then WCSL
>> has or ever will have.
>>
>> On 1/27/09, Argo wrote:
>>> When one looks at the actual bar pass rate statistics,
>>> considering the short time WCSL has been in existence and
>>> the relatively small number of students it has, it has a
>>> better bar pass rate than many other CA correspondence/DL
>>> law schools. Facts are facts.