Re: WCSL Bar Pass Rate actually dismall

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Oops it should be # passed # takers in that order

On 1/27/09, Pass Rates since 1997 wrote:
> Pass Rates in DL since 1997
> All Takers # Takers # Passed &37; Passed
> WCSL 6 28 21.43&37;
> Concord 204 643 31.73&37;
> Abraham Lincoln 57 524 10.88&37;
> NWCU 61 333 18.32&37;
> Taft 131 635 20.63&37;
>
> First Timers # Takers # Passed &37; Passed
> WCSL 3 15 20.00&37;
> Concord 169 417 40.53&37;
> Abraham Lincoln 26 175 14.86&37;
> NWCU 34 145 23.45&37;
> Taft 65 252 25.79&37;
>
> WCSL does not have enough data to really compare, but ranks 2nd
> to Concord among this group in all takers, and 2nd to last in
> first timers among this group. Abraham Lincoln is dismal among
> the group with only 10.88&37; passing among all 524 takers!
> Concord has respectable numbers for both first timers and
> overall. I don't have the stats for Oakbrook, but I believe
> they have respectable pass rates as well. It's clearly a choice
> each person has to make when choosing DL, and individual results
> depend on individual efforts. If I had the dough and was just
> starting out in DL I would choose Concord. I am a WCSL transfer-
> out student myself, but not interested in completing work
> already studied...Concord will make you complete at least 50&37;
> with them. Don't be fooled an education from DL law schools
> including Concord is not an accepted education among the higher
> circles. You will be treated like an underling, you will defend
> your education your entire career if it comes up among ABA
> graduates. It is not equivalent to an ABA education.
> Massachusetts does not approve of Concord DL education per se,
> it depends on the individual merits. The ABA probably will
> never accept an entirely online education in its present form.
> You cannot get the same experience as a brick and mortar school
> at a DL school. You make this choice at your own risk. I did
> myself for two reasons 1. economic 2. flexibility. I am the
> breadwinner of a wife and kids, I have a high level job that
> requires several hours overtime, I cannot attend a fixed
> schedule at a brick and mortar. I was accepted to a 1st tier
> ABA school, but had no choice unless I wanted to give up my
> salary and live with my family in an RV or something. It's an
> uphill battle no matter which way you look at it. A DL graduate
> has very little chance of even becoming a DA, and I wouldn't
> want that pay cut anyway. 3rd Tier ABA graduates even have a
> hard time finding employment as an attorney. You have even less
> chance than them, the accredited, and the unaccredited law
> schools. You will have to build your own practice, be very good
> at networking, and find a mentor to help you practice law. Good
> Luck!
>
> As far as a defamation/libel suit it's probably more headache
> than it's worth to file one, it's even more moot to argue one
> here with all of the wannabe lawyers who haven't passed the bar
> themselves arguing their sides. If there are any practicing
> lawyer's here they are really wasting time arguing against DL
> law school, and my sense is they are insecure somehow that a DL
> graduate poses some economic threat to them, and of course they
> need to defend themselves. Listen to the oral arguments in the
> Massachusetts case of the Concord student you'll hear the same
> undertones from the bar examiner. He goes just short of calling
> the Concord graduate an idiot outright. It's what you will face
> as a DL graduate. However, researching a potential suit might
> be a good exercise in trial advocacy or moot court if you wanted
> to pursue it off of this board. But the case probably has a
> snowball's chance in he!! of success in any case.
>
>
> On 1/27/09, Well, not quite wrote:
>> Actual pass rates from the Bar Statistics are:
>>
>> October 2008 BB passing rates:
>> WCSL 29&37;
>> Concord 14&37;
>> Taft 17&37;
>>
>> For both 2008 Bar Exams passing rates:
>> WCSL 27&37;
>> Concord 30&37;
>> Taft 19&37;
>>
>> Not a lot of difference between the "Harvard" of distance
>> learning and the poor step child except that the student
>> walks away with a lot more money in the pocket. Interesting
>> what happens when the facts instead of emotion are brought
>> to light.
>>
>>
>> On 1/27/09, ABA graduate wrote:
>>> No, it does not.
>>>
>>> Concord, Taft and NWCU have a much
>>> better Bar pass rate and MORE practicing
>>> attorneys admitted to the Calif Bar then WCSL
>>> has or ever will have.
>>>
>>> On 1/27/09, Argo wrote:
>>>> When one looks at the actual bar pass rate statistics,
>>>> considering the short time WCSL has been in existence and
>>>> the relatively small number of students it has, it has a
>>>> better bar pass rate than many other CA correspondence/DL
>>>> law schools. Facts are facts.