Re: NWCULAW IS NO GOOD

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Depends on what you are comparing it against. I think it is, considering that many DL law
students get what they put in to online education. What you get at a school like Concord is
bells and whistles. Concord always brags that students who get a B+ average in thier
program pass the bar with flying colors (like 80% of the time, I think). If a student
actually does the studying at NWCU Law, then yes, they will pass.

They have been around a lot longer, and one year they even beat some ABA schools on the bar
exam (in terms of percentage passing rate).

Victoria Weaver

On 4/18/09, Karen wrote:
> According to the State Bar stats, for the past two years less than one in four of NWCU
> graduates have passed the bar on the first attempt. Is this considered pretty good?
>
> On 4/17/09, Victoria Weaver wrote:
>> What do you base that on? Certainly not baby bar or bar passage rate. If you were to
>> base it on those, you would have to concede that Concord or Oakbrook are at the top of
>> the curve, but you pay through the nose at Concord and Oakbrook requires an in-
>> residence requirement. NWCU has pretty good baby bar and bar passage rates, and is
> half
>> the price of a lot of the other schools. I chose to transfer to NWCU because of the
>> good pass rates, the price, and the fact it has been around for a long time.
>>
>> ALU has high tuition and the bar pass rates are less than stellar. If you were to
>> actually give some reasons, then perhaps we might consider agreeing with you. I am not
>> one who advocates DETC accreditation, but that is actually another thing against ALU
>> (because Taft and Concord have that designation).
>>
>> Victoria Weaver
>>
>>
>> On 4/17/09, Mel wrote:
>>> The only good school is Abraham Lincoln University School of Law.
>>>
>>> On 4/16/09, Li nda wrote:
>>>> A good example of what I was writing follows:
>>>>
>>>> Question
>>>> I have read the general rule of no deduction for law school, but I haven't read
>>>> anything for my particular situation. I am a registered patent agent with the
>>>> United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). My point is that there is
>>>> nothing a patent attorney can do with the USPTO with patents that I cannot do as a
>>>> patent agent. I have written patents since 2005, I became a registered patent
>>>> agent in 2008, and am now in law school for one reason: increase my earnings
>>>> potential.
>>>>
>>>> When I am finished with law school I am going to be in the same industry and trade
>>>> I was before law school. I realize that law school could generally "qualify me
>>>> for a new trade or business" but at the same time, law school is not qualifying me
>>>> anymore than I am already to work with the USPTO. The USPTO doesn't really care
>>>> if I am an agent or an attorney. Both can have clients, both can write the patent
>>>> applications, both can file the patent apps with the USPTO, and both can prosecute
>>>> the patent apps through several office actions until the application is dropped or
>>>> published as a patent.
>>>>
>>>> So in your opinion, do I have a shot at a legitimate deduction?
>>>>
>>>> Answer:
>>>> Thanks for your question.
>>>>
>>>> No, you cannot deduct your law school costs. It does qualify you for a new trade
>>>> or business whether you ever pursue that or not. The IRS has ruled specifically
>>>> in such situations.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> John Stancil, CPA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/16/09, Li nda wrote:
>>>>> First, please excuse the typos. Some, but not all are because the Board
>>>>> apparently won't allow some words. I have no reason why but on average one in
>>>>> three of my posts go through.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasn’t referring to Section 162. But since you brought it up, law school
>>>>> expenses are never deductible under 162 because it qualifies a person for a new
>>>>> profession. There are dozens if not hundreds of cases in this area and the
>>>>> taxpayer always loses. Don’t trust me, research it. Or ask NWCU to give you
>>>>> some cases. I did and they couldn’t.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tax credits are only available to students enrolled in schools that are
>>>>> accredited, as defined by the Department of Education. You can view the Taf t
>>>>> website for more specific details.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I wrote earlier, I don't think the NWCU is a bad option for some. But they,
>>>>> and you, need to get some facts straight.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that they continue to give incorrect tax info is worrisome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/16/09, Res Ipsa Loco wrote:
>>>>>> NWCU is accredited in the sense that it is "registered" with the CBE. (LOL)It is
>>>>>> not "accredited" in the sense which you are speaking, but it does not matter.
>>> (Except if you want an accredited degree)
>>>>>> Do you now (spelled correctly) see my point. The tuition can still be deducted
>>>>>> for tax purposes--here is the info from the website:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tax Deduction
>>>>>> A tax deduction may be allowed for expenses undertaken to: Maintain or improve
>>>>>> skills required in one's employment, trade or business, or Meet specific
>>>>>> requirements of an employer or a law imposed as a condition to retention of
>>>>>> employment, job status or rate of compensation. (See Treasury Regulation 1.
>>>>> 162-
>>>>>> 5.) (My tax man is H & R Boock)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do your research, and learn how to spell. I understand that an occasional
>>>>> stray
>>>>>> key may be hit, but you are incorrectly spelling way too many words in a
>>>>> single
>>>>>> sentence. It is irritating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Res Ipsa Loco
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/16/09, Li nda wrote:
>>>>>>> Tree but NWCU is NOT accredited. Do you know see my point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/15/09, Res Ipsa Loco wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tax credits can be used from any accredited school. There are no strong
>>>>>>>> points in your argument. NWCU Law is the best around in terms of quality
>>>>>>>> and price.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Res Ipsa Loco
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/15/09, L inda wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I stand corrected with respect to con cord. But T aft is not three
>>>>>>>>> times and factoring in tax credits the difference is not all that much
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/14/09, GET NEW INFORMATION wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/09, Linda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on information I received from all three school, the bar pass
>>>>>>>>>>> rate over the past five years is lower at NWCU than the other two
>>>>>>>>>>> accredited schools. And according to the websites, the tuition is
>>>>>>>>>>> not three times as much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NWCU is 2850 a year for starters, Concord is 9k+, so I your right....
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> is more than 3 x's as much and as far as bar passage rates again you
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> wrong especially w/ regard to the FYLSE... go to calbar.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/12/09, Linda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could do worst than Northwestern but I suggest that you also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> check out the other schools, particularly COn cord and Taf t.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both offer Federal student aid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/11/09, questions wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering Northwest California Law School for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance learning Law degree. I can not move at this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, I can not quit my job, I have a family who needs me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home. I live in Maine and I am about 6 hours from the law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school. Has anyone gone/going to NWCULAW? I understand it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is unaccredited with the ABA and I understand all I must
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do to pass the bar and practice law later. Any help would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be great thanks so much.