Re: Marketing/ Sales to lawyers and law firms

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Yes, I am an attorney who has been burned by several people's great ideas for
generating potential clients. I have taken a heavy hit from comanies like
Legal Match and other similar marketing gurus.

I am pessimistic because I have already been taken to the cleaners more than
once.

On 12/20/07, Mike C wrote:
> No, I don't have a website that clients come to, submit information regarding
> a case and then pass along that info to lawyers. What did I say in my post
> that would give you that idea? I was just saying, you seem to have too many
> irons in the fire and instead of trying to be a graphic designer, web designer
> and marketing expert. You would probably be better off letting a professional
> help you with your marketing and focus on your clients. You are a lawyer,
> correct?
>
> On 12/14/07, Rob wrote:
>> What wonderful client generating idea do you have Mike C. I bet it is
> close
>> to something like "Clients come to my website and submit information that I
>> then send to you for $xxx per lead."
>>
>> Sorry sir, you are a dime a dozen.
>>
>> On 12/12/07, Mike C. wrote:
>>> Well, actually you did. Read over your post.
>>> On 12/08/07, Rob wrote:
>>>> I never claimed to be a web designer. I was merely stating that
>>>> there are a million want to be legal match and legal fish "marketers"
>>>> out there who could not wet a paper bag in the middle of the ocean.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/05/07, Mike C. wrote:
>>>>> Good Point. If a lawyer is representing his clients as he should,
>>>>> chances are he/she is not going to have the time it takes to do what
>>>>> was suggested in the post by Rob. Rob, if you have the time to spend
>>>>> designing websites and doing graphic design and media plans, I would
>>>>> say great! Why not go into advertising and forget about law?
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI: I'm in need of back surgery, thinking about doing it myself!:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/30/07, Blake wrote:
>>>>>> Post that website Chief.. I would like to see how a true
>>>>>> lawyer/graphic designer/programmer/advertising executive, creates
>>>>>> and promotes a quality website..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you're missing my point.... That's the problem with most
>>>>>> lawyers, they think they have everything all figured out.. waste
>>>>>> thousands of dollars trying to do something they have absolutely no
>>>>>> knowledge of.. When they should just avoid the court room and Stick
>>>>>> to settling cases..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/07, Rob wrote:
>>>>>>> I am doing just fine without one of the millions already living in
>>>>>>> their mom's basement with their "great ideas" to make me
>>>>>>> millions. I am pefectfully capable of designing my own website
>>>>>>> and submitting it to search engines. My website will not look
>>>>>>> like it was designed by a 5 year old, I won't have to pay someone
>>>>>>> thousands to update it, and I can ensure it complies with my state
>>>>>>> bar association's rules of professional conduct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they are not willing to put their "great idea" in writing, I am
>>>>>>> not even going to speak to them. Most of the "great ideas" are
>>>>>>> the same ole "pay me $10 per lead that comes from my website that
>>>>>>> could have been designed my 5 yr old little sister/daughter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will give you my secondary email address so you can put it in
>>>>>>> writing. If they are not willing to put it in writing, they can
>>>>>>> go rip someone else off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/07, Blake wrote:
>>>>>>>> so there are really that many people living in mom's basement
>>>>>>>> doing nothing but thinking of great ideas for lawyers.. and then
>>>>>>>> calling them??? If you're not already, get a job with a large
>>>>>>>> firm, because with that mindset, you'll never make it on your
>>>>>>>> own.. and will probably end up living in your mom's basement..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/03/07, Rob wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am a young lawyer and I am one of the ones who will hang up
>>>>>>>>> on the 1,000,000 people working out of their mom's basement
>>>>>>>>> with a "million dollar opportunity." Put it in writing and
>>>>>>>>> then maybe I will call you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/02/07, Al wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Good Advice. Those old dinosaurs are slowly dying off due to
>>>>>>>>>> not being able to conform to new media practices that are
>>>>>>>>>> needed for any law firm to continue to have success. It's a
>>>>>>>>>> competitve market place, I have to laugh at these high brow
>>>>>>>>>> jerks that make comments like, " if the caller mis-
>>>>>>>>>> pronounces my name, I hang up." That's the dumbest comment
>>>>>>>>>> I've heard to date... How full of yourself can you be? It
>>>>>>>>>> takes 2-3 minutes to listen to what a marketer has to say..
>>>>>>>>>> If intersted, request info, if not, ask to be removed from
>>>>>>>>>> the call list.. it's that simple....
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/01/07, Kurt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>> If you are trying to market your product to lawyers the
>>>>>>>>>>> most important thing is to be confident in what you have,
>>>>>>>>>>> and even more importantly you have to be persistent. My
>>>>>>>>>>> advice to you is to focus on younger lawyers that are more
>>>>>>>>>>> perceptive to new ideas. Lawyers like "Ozark man" are like
>>>>>>>>>>> dinosaurs and they will never accept the product that you
>>>>>>>>>>> are offering them. I have seen my product double the
>>>>>>>>>>> client inquiries of every Law Firm that I have sold to,
>>>>>>>>>>> but even with that track record old lawyers are not
>>>>>>>>>>> willing to change... find the young ones and help them
>>>>>>>>>>> grow and eventually surpass the "old school" lawyers.