Re: David Ward: Have you used his materials?

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Rubio owes me money! I have a civil judgment against him and his company for
failing to refund my purchase price as he stated he would in his advertisements
and his letters. I returned the items. They were so full of mispellings and
grammer errors, I just did not have faith in the product sufficient to warrant
the purchase price. I returned it pursuant to his "no questions" asked offer
and he failed to pay me any money back. I sued, won judgment, and now he will
not return my calls.

On 4/13/06, Michael wrote:
> I liked Ward's materials because they provided solid information, but I
> hesitate to recommend them to other attorneys. Most attorneys are looking for
> Earth-shattering revelations -- Ward just provides good common sense marketing
> principles.
>
> If a thousand dollars is very expensive to you -- then this is probably not
> for you. The money would be better spent elsewhere.
>
> I also interviewed John Rubio yesterday for my website. A lot of attorneys
> don't like his stuff because they say it makes you appear "cheesy"
> and "salesy" to potential clients, but a lot of other attorneys love his stuff
> because it makes them money. I guess you can't win them all.
>
> I interviewed an attorney yesterday who is using Rubio's materials, and as he
> explained it, Rubio's stuff is for getting "bread and butter" cases -- the
> $5,000 - $10,000 cases... not the high-end cases... and the marketing system
> relies on a volume mill-type practice.
>
> Again, I guess you can't win them all.
>
> Michael
>
> On 4/11/06, rrr wrote:
>> JRM: I don't know what you know, and I don't know what you can find for
>> free. There is nothing that can't eventually be found with enough research
>> for free. There is also the question of how valuable is your time.
>>
>> David Ward puts together a package that has value to some and not to
> others.
>> I bought the package, I used it, and it paid for itself almost immediately.
>> Could I have found the same information someplace else for less... possibly.
>> But he put into a nice convenient ready to use package for me.
>>
>> As for how much it costs... consider how much you charge for a 1 page Demand
>> Letter, or a 5 page will, or an hours worth of sitting in a courtroom
> waiting
>> for your case to be called to ask for a continuance. Put that into
>> perspective with what Ward charges for his course, samples, and e-mentoring
>> and its seems almost laughable that you would question the price.
>>
>> P.S. I also tried Rubio, I don't recommend his materials.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/25/06, JRM wrote:
>>> On 6/15/05, rrr wrote:
>>>> Yeah, sometimes we forget that everything that is done by "normal"
>>>> businesses can be and should be done by Lawyers. Wards materials are a
>>>> good reminder. I can honestly say of all the money I spent in my first
>>>> few years as a solo, Ward's materials are the only ones I don't regret
>>>> buying. And that says a lot to me. But people with different marketing
>>>> knowledge levels may see it differently.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/15/05, Lawmoe wrote:
>>>>> I also purchased David Wards materials. Although much of the
>>>>> information was fairly obvious and I haad heeard it before, reviewing
>>>>> the infomation was valuable and kept me on track. I was happy with my
>>>>> purchase as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> What did David Ward offer that cannot be found for free? After reading Joe
>>> Vitale's books and other programs, what do Ward or Rubio sell for such high
>>> fees? After all, a thousand dollars is quite a bit for a marketing system
>>> for the solo lawyer.