Re: Executive JD

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I think there are merits to both of your postings.

First of all, Prairie Dawg is right: if you are going to get a J.D., it
mine as well be a bar-track program. Why waste the time and money. Go to
West Coast School of law and pay the $1500 per year. If you don't or
can't pass the baby and general bars, as the very least you will have
your EJD.

Secondly, as a legal document and unlawful detainer assistant in a
California county, I can tell you that preparing legal documents or
assisting with unlawful detainers is in fact sanctioned by California
law. However, I will make the point that absolutely little legal
knowledge or expertise is needed to execute a legal document like a will,
power of attorney, etc. However, when you are talking about mortgage
documents or other complex documents which need to be examined by a
competent attorney, then I would certainly become an attorney or hire
one. People who don't pass the bar are not lawyers and should not market
themselves as such. Additionally, I am licenced and bonded, which is a
requirement under CA law.

As PD said, I would be EXTREMELY careful when giving any type of advice
pertaining to a legal document with an EJD, because if your business card
says EJD and you accidently give advice of a legal nature, you are up a
creek, so to speak.

CP

On 12/05/07, Prairie Dawg wrote:
> Well, go ahead on, walk up the steps to the guillotine, lay your head
> down ever so nice and let me hand you the rope-it's your funeral, and
> I shan't keep you from it.
>
> You have a great day yourself. At least when they come looking for me
> I can point to the license signed by the chief justice of our supreme
> court and say "That lets me do what I did." As far as what you say,
> you're right until the first pissed off client files a complaint, they
> find out you're not licensed and they figure out what you've been up
> to.
>
> On 12/05/07, executive JD L1 wrote:
>> Dear Mr. Prairie Dawg: What state do you live and practice in,
>> the attorneys don't have any say in what a "licensed legal document
>> preparers" does. Notary Publics are licensed by the Dept. of State
>> and the many State Supreme Courts license/certify Mediators. What I
>> plan on doing is on the up and up and 100&37; legal. It is
>> not "unlicensed law practice". No passing of the bar exam is needed
>> for any of the activities I mention. If you think I'm mistaken, do
>> some research and find out for yourself. PS. Have a nice day.
>>
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>> On 12/05/07, Prairie Dawg wrote:
>>> That's kind of like wanting to milk the cow through the fence
>>> instead of buying it. How are you going to be able to prepare
>>> documents without running foul of UAPL and the local gentry? I
>>> mean, do you really think the attorneys in your community will
>>> just say "Oh yeah, there goes Teddy, doesn't want to take the bar
>>> because he can't, doesn't carry malpractice insurance, no CLE
>>> requirements but he's eating at our table and it's all good"?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/04/07, distance learning executive JD L1 wrote:
>>>> I am in a similar situation as you. I work as a paralegal
>>>> in a law office. I want to eventually setup my own legal
>>>> documents preparation, notary public business and Mediation
>>>> practice. I have no desire to take any bar exam ever.
>>>>
>>>> If its just exposure to a law school education that you want, an
>>>> executive JD(non-bar)program may give you all the exposure to
>>>> the basic law school subjects and provide you all the education
>>>> you may want and need. You may want to take some extra electives
>>>> like "Wills & Trust", "Property" courses or "Corporations". Or
>>>> what ever interests you. Remember an executive JD does not make
>>>> you eligible to take a bar exam if you change you mind later
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> The executive JD programs provide you the opportunity to study
>>>> law with the least time restrictions and least amount of stress
>>>> possible. To fine "online law schools" just do a "Google" search
>>>> and you'll see whats out there. Best of luck to you in your law
>>>> studies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/04/07, SJAM wrote:
>>>>>>> I work with various types of legal documents from Trust
>>>>>>> Agreements to Escrow Agreements. In my position I need to
>>>>>>> understand and comment on these documents drafted by
>>>>>>> attorneys in order to provide our services while taking in
>>>>>>> account of Risk Aversion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not intend to practice law; however I would like to
>>>>>>> obtain a better foundation in order to be more efficient
>>>>>>> and knowledgeable of the issues at hand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Therefore, does anyone know if an "Executive JD" program
>>>>>>> would benefit me? Also, which program would you suggest?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you...