Re: Executive JD Programs Equal to MBAs in Law

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I agree that the "executive" JD degree is not recognized
by anyone, nor is it taken seriously by any business or company
and should be eliminated.

By the way, Jeff, I dont believe the previous poster
used the name "Dom", who ever that is.

On 1/03/10, Jeff wrote:
> Please excuse Dom. He seems to be an angry individual. Usually it is best to ignore
his rants.
>
> On 1/03/10, no such thing as a MBA in law wrote:
>> The J.D. degree is a professional degree that prepares one
>> to practice law. A "executive" JD degree is a useless piece
>> of paper, that is why there is no such thing as "executive"
>> medical degree, "executive" dental degree, "executive"
>> pharmacy degree.
>>
>> Come on, dude, get over it. The "executive" J.D. was
>> created for the babies that can not pass the 1st year
>> law student exam but want to walk around telling everyone
>> yea I have a Juris Doctorate, I cant practice law but
>> you can call me Dr. LOL
>>
>>
>> "I believe those who complain about the Executive JD, and the online JD Degrees do
>> so because they believe it is a short cut, or are enemies of online programs.
>>
>> Online education is the future."
>>
>>
>> On 1/02/10, Cedric Johnson wrote:
>>> Many of the post to this feed do not reflect America as a free land. There are
>> many that have a very narrow
>>> approach when it comes to legal education. The ABA accredits law school, the fact
>> that the schools already
>>> have regional accreditation is not an issue, given that the ABA is a national
>> accreditation body, and a
>>> monopoly. There are stand-alone law school, such as the Phoenix Law School, which
>> only have ABA national
>>> accreditation.
>>>
>>> The fact that graduates from non-aba schools take and pass the bar lends
>> credibility to the schools. America
>>> is a free land, and if any person wants to acquire a law degree and not practice
>> that is their right, and many
>>> do this year end and year out. A great many of our political leaders have law
>> degrees, some have practiced,
>>> and some have not.
>>>
>>> Do you really believe our current president attended Harvard Law to practice, or
>> perhaps he had some higher
>>> goal in mind?
>>>
>>> At any rate, it has to be much more difficult to attend an online law school
>> given, success rest entirely on the
>>> student. You don't have the face to face contact, and help that is available from
>> a traditional law school. One
>>> must have that extra drive to succeed given that no one is pushing you forward
>> other than self.
>>>
>>> The JD and Executive JD are both JD's, earned from hard work, no matter if it is
>> traditional or online. Has
>>> anyone denigrated the online Executive MBA's from top Tier One universities as
>> less than an MBA.
>>>
>>> I believe those who complain about the Executive JD, and the online JD Degrees do
>> so because they believe it
>>> is a short cut, or are enemies of online programs.
>>>
>>> Online education is the future.
>>>
>>> On 11/27/09, A JD May Equal a JD wrote:
>>>> You can say what you want, but apparently to some state bar examiners and some
>>>> supreme courts(Mass). A JD is a JD, " if it allows you to take the bar its
>>>> good". The fuyture no doubt will bring no states allowing on-line JD sudents to
>>>> take bar exams.
>>>> really lets be realistic a JD graduate from a ABA school who does not pass the
>>>> bar is just that, a JD grad from an ABA school.
>>>> To be a lawyer you must pass the bar or your just a law graduate. Do we know
>>>> anyone who graduated fro an ABA law school but could not pass the bat even after
>>>> multiple attempts. I know several who fall in that category, graduating from an
>>>> ABA law school does not make you a lawyer. I say embrace online law education,
>>>> that goes for the ABA schools too.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/27/09, A J.D. is not equal to but higher then a MBA wrote:
>>>>> WRONG !
>>>>>
>>>>> An eJ.D. degree from Concord is NOT a regionally accredited
>>>>> degree and nor is their bar qualifying J.D. degree a regionally
>>>>> accredited degree.
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. J.D. degrees are only "accredited"
>>>>> in the strictest sense of the term "accredited" from the American Bar
>>>>> Association.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/26/09, MS from Carolina wrote:
>>>>>> It appears the opponents of Concord Law School's JD program have a somewhat
>>>>>> outdated view. Check out the latest update on Wikipedia's entry for Concord
>>>>>> Law School (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Law_School). It turns
>>>>>> out that four Concord grads were admitted to practice before the US Supreme
>>>>>> Court in March 2008 (see http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/computer-internet-
>>>>>> law/7749376-1.html). Perhaps more importantly, the Supreme Court of
>>>>>> Massachusetts ordered that state's Board of Bar Examiners to allow a Concord
>>>>>> grad to sit for their bar exam in January 2009. This Concord grad promptly
>>>>>> passed the Massachusetts bar in February 2009 (see
>>>>>> http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_cbj.jsp?
>>>>>> sCategoryPath=/Home/Attorney&37;20Resources/California&37;20Bar&37;
>>>>>> 20Journal/January2009&sCatHtmlPath=cbj/2009-
>>>>>> 01_TH_05_onlinelawschoolgrad.html&sCatHtmlTitle=Top&37;20Headlines). In
>>>>> short,
>>>>>> it appears any determined individual can attend Concord's JD program and
>>>>>> enjoy a reasonably good chance of gaining admittance to just about any state
>>>>>> bar in the US (as the Massachusetts Supreme Court will be considered
>>>>>> persuasive authority on the subject).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the debate on an eJD, there is only one relevant point. Concord's eJD
>>>>>> is a professional doctorate degree. And since Concord is part of Kaplan
>>>>>> University, a regionally accredited university, Concord's eJD is a
>>>>>> regionally accredited, professional doctorate degree. For a number of
>>>>>> positions in higher education, public administration and corporations in
>>>>>> general, this is a very valuable credential.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/09/09, MBA from Wharton not as good as eJD? lol wrote:
>>>>>>> "> Having said that, their are many a US law student who go to law school
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> never intend to practice law. These folks just enjoy the academic
>>>>>>>> challenge or seek a resume enhancing degree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AND THOSE PEOPLE GO TO A REAL LAW SCHOOL ACCREDITED BY THE ABA, REGIONALLY
>>>>>>> ACCREDITED AND A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF LAW SCHOOLS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not some mickey mouse law school in a guy's spare bedroom in his house, lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An accredited MBA from any accredited university is worth more then any
>>>>>>> toilet paper unccredited eJD degree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/09/09, Chip St.. John wrote:
>>>>>>>> I look at EJD or Executive Juris Doctor degrees as a sort of masters
>>>>>>>> degree in law for lay people or those that don't want to practice law,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> just want the legal knowledge an training
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We should all take note that while the Juris Doctor law degree in the US
>>>>>>>> has been elevated to a higher level degree, in many countries the first
>>>>>>>> law degree is usually an LLB, an undergraduate degree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/09/09, Dom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> EJDs have been very useful to many Americans. I would highly recommend
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 6/08/09, degree not meant for a CEO wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> eJD degrees are unaccredited and thus useless in
>>>>>>>>>> trying to use such a degree to get a job as a CEO.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A juris doctor is meant for practicing law.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/01/09, BK Brooklyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree that EJD programs are worthless!! Go figure, some of you
>>>>>>>>>>> are studying to become attorney's yet, your vision & outlook is
>>>>>>>>>>> narrow. That's why attorney's are usually the worst when it comes
>>>>>>>>>>> to working in the Corporate world. With an EJD you can position
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself to become a CEO of an organization. While you do not give
>>>>>>>>>>> advice or practice in a court room, the EJD gives you the
>>>>>>>>>>> foundation to understand the law as it pertains to many fields.
>>>>>>>>>>> Take the case of being a CEO, you can work closely with your Gen.
>>>>>>>>>>> Counsel on matters and be able to understand and relate to issues
>>>>>>>>>>> in M&A cases, lawsuits, Employee case related suits, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, the point you ignorant boneheads is that you need to be
>>>>>>>>>>> able to open your minds to see that there is more to law than your
>>>>>>>>>>> narrow minded ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. MBA from Brooklyn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/09, Jason S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would agree that schools like Concord are good. However, EJD or
>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive JD programs as worthless, because you can't give legal
>>>>>>>>>>>> advice. I mean, whats the point, really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And the 1L at Cleveland Marshall needs to learn how to spell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/09, Cedric wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a very narrow view. I would recommend you take a look
>>>>>>>>>>>> at who attends a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> school like Concord, as you will find most already have
>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved career success,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have advanced degrees from some pretty impressive schools.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you get into any law school does not mean you will become
>>>>>>>>>>>> a lawyer, as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers show, only about 67&37; pass the bar on average, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> some never take the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar, go figure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/09, Francis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/04/06, FRice wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone out there have any experience with one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these programs? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they worthwhile or a waste of time? Let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These programs are worthless if you want to go to LAW SCHOOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to one that is ABA aproved it's not that hard to achieve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dream of being a lawyer. Yes these non ABA aproved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs have eisier standards but you will have to pay for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them later. For instance Concorde Law School (Kaplin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University Online) is non ABA aproved there students can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only take the Bar exam in a few places mainly CA and no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where else. while an ABA aproved JD holder is able to sit on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Bar exam. The EJD program offered by Concorde is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiste of time. best of luck in your search for the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Francis 1L Cleveland Marshall College of Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>