Re: Executive JD Programs Equal to MBAs in Law

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I agree. Those who want an executive JD (non-bar track) are simply wanting to be
called doctor without having the honor of being a bar admitted attorney. If you want
to be called doctor without taking the bar, there are many non-law related programs
you can get admitted to without taking the bar. Many schools offer a EdD in education,
which is a doctorate. Many are regionally accredited and take only one year if you
have a masters degree.

The best things in life don't come easy. The baby bar was no joke, and I am guessing
the general bar exam is no joke either (I take it Feb. 2011, all things being equal).

Crown Prince

On 1/03/10, no such thing as a MBA in law wrote:
> The J.D. degree is a professional degree that prepares one
> to practice law. A "executive" JD degree is a useless piece
> of paper, that is why there is no such thing as "executive"
> medical degree, "executive" dental degree, "executive"
> pharmacy degree.
>
> Come on, dude, get over it. The "executive" J.D. was
> created for the babies that can not pass the 1st year
> law student exam but want to walk around telling everyone
> yea I have a Juris Doctorate, I cant practice law but
> you can call me Dr. LOL
>
>
> "I believe those who complain about the Executive JD, and the online JD Degrees do
> so because they believe it is a short cut, or are enemies of online programs.
>
> Online education is the future."
>
>
> On 1/02/10, Cedric Johnson wrote:
>> Many of the post to this feed do not reflect America as a free land. There are
> many that have a very narrow
>> approach when it comes to legal education. The ABA accredits law school, the fact
> that the schools already
>> have regional accreditation is not an issue, given that the ABA is a national
> accreditation body, and a
>> monopoly. There are stand-alone law school, such as the Phoenix Law School, which
> only have ABA national
>> accreditation.
>>
>> The fact that graduates from non-aba schools take and pass the bar lends
> credibility to the schools. America
>> is a free land, and if any person wants to acquire a law degree and not practice
> that is their right, and many
>> do this year end and year out. A great many of our political leaders have law
> degrees, some have practiced,
>> and some have not.
>>
>> Do you really believe our current president attended Harvard Law to practice, or
> perhaps he had some higher
>> goal in mind?
>>
>> At any rate, it has to be much more difficult to attend an online law school
> given, success rest entirely on the
>> student. You don't have the face to face contact, and help that is available from
> a traditional law school. One
>> must have that extra drive to succeed given that no one is pushing you forward
> other than self.
>>
>> The JD and Executive JD are both JD's, earned from hard work, no matter if it is
> traditional or online. Has
>> anyone denigrated the online Executive MBA's from top Tier One universities as
> less than an MBA.
>>
>> I believe those who complain about the Executive JD, and the online JD Degrees do
> so because they believe it
>> is a short cut, or are enemies of online programs.
>>
>> Online education is the future.
>>
>> On 11/27/09, A JD May Equal a JD wrote:
>>> You can say what you want, but apparently to some state bar examiners and some
>>> supreme courts(Mass). A JD is a JD, " if it allows you to take the bar its
>>> good". The fuyture no doubt will bring no states allowing on-line JD sudents to
>>> take bar exams.
>>> really lets be realistic a JD graduate from a ABA school who does not pass the
>>> bar is just that, a JD grad from an ABA school.
>>> To be a lawyer you must pass the bar or your just a law graduate. Do we know
>>> anyone who graduated fro an ABA law school but could not pass the bat even after
>>> multiple attempts. I know several who fall in that category, graduating from an
>>> ABA law school does not make you a lawyer. I say embrace online law education,
>>> that goes for the ABA schools too.
>>>
>>> On 11/27/09, A J.D. is not equal to but higher then a MBA wrote:
>>>> WRONG !
>>>>
>>>> An eJ.D. degree from Concord is NOT a regionally accredited
>>>> degree and nor is their bar qualifying J.D. degree a regionally
>>>> accredited degree.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. J.D. degrees are only "accredited"
>>>> in the strictest sense of the term "accredited" from the American Bar
>>>> Association.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/26/09, MS from Carolina wrote:
>>>>> It appears the opponents of Concord Law School's JD program have a somewhat
>>>>> outdated view. Check out the latest update on Wikipedia's entry for Concord
>>>>> Law School (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Law_School). It turns
>>>>> out that four Concord grads were admitted to practice before the US Supreme
>>>>> Court in March 2008 (see http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/computer-internet-
>>>>> law/7749376-1.html). Perhaps more importantly, the Supreme Court of
>>>>> Massachusetts ordered that state's Board of Bar Examiners to allow a Concord
>>>>> grad to sit for their bar exam in January 2009. This Concord grad promptly
>>>>> passed the Massachusetts bar in February 2009 (see
>>>>> http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_cbj.jsp?
>>>>> sCategoryPath=/Home/Attorney&37;20Resources/California&37;20Bar&37;
>>>>> 20Journal/January2009&sCatHtmlPath=cbj/2009-
>>>>> 01_TH_05_onlinelawschoolgrad.html&sCatHtmlTitle=Top&37;20Headlines). In
>>>> short,
>>>>> it appears any determined individual can attend Concord's JD program and
>>>>> enjoy a reasonably good chance of gaining admittance to just about any state
>>>>> bar in the US (as the Massachusetts Supreme Court will be considered
>>>>> persuasive authority on the subject).
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the debate on an eJD, there is only one relevant point. Concord's eJD
>>>>> is a professional doctorate degree. And since Concord is part of Kaplan
>>>>> University, a regionally accredited university, Concord's eJD is a
>>>>> regionally accredited, professional doctorate degree. For a number of
>>>>> positions in higher education, public administration and corporations in
>>>>> general, this is a very valuable credential.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/09/09, MBA from Wharton not as good as eJD? lol wrote:
>>>>>> "> Having said that, their are many a US law student who go to law school
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> never intend to practice law. These folks just enjoy the academic
>>>>>>> challenge or seek a resume enhancing degree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> AND THOSE PEOPLE GO TO A REAL LAW SCHOOL ACCREDITED BY THE ABA, REGIONALLY
>>>>>> ACCREDITED AND A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF LAW SCHOOLS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not some mickey mouse law school in a guy's spare bedroom in his house, lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An accredited MBA from any accredited university is worth more then any
>>>>>> toilet paper unccredited eJD degree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/09/09, Chip St.. John wrote:
>>>>>>> I look at EJD or Executive Juris Doctor degrees as a sort of masters
>>>>>>> degree in law for lay people or those that don't want to practice law,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> just want the legal knowledge an training
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should all take note that while the Juris Doctor law degree in the US
>>>>>>> has been elevated to a higher level degree, in many countries the first
>>>>>>> law degree is usually an LLB, an undergraduate degree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/09/09, Dom wrote:
>>>>>>>> EJDs have been very useful to many Americans. I would highly recommend
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 6/08/09, degree not meant for a CEO wrote:
>>>>>>>>> eJD degrees are unaccredited and thus useless in
>>>>>>>>> trying to use such a degree to get a job as a CEO.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A juris doctor is meant for practicing law.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/01/09, BK Brooklyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I disagree that EJD programs are worthless!! Go figure, some of you
>>>>>>>>>> are studying to become attorney's yet, your vision & outlook is
>>>>>>>>>> narrow. That's why attorney's are usually the worst when it comes
>>>>>>>>>> to working in the Corporate world. With an EJD you can position
>>>>>>>>>> yourself to become a CEO of an organization. While you do not give
>>>>>>>>>> advice or practice in a court room, the EJD gives you the
>>>>>>>>>> foundation to understand the law as it pertains to many fields.
>>>>>>>>>> Take the case of being a CEO, you can work closely with your Gen.
>>>>>>>>>> Counsel on matters and be able to understand and relate to issues
>>>>>>>>>> in M&A cases, lawsuits, Employee case related suits, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, the point you ignorant boneheads is that you need to be
>>>>>>>>>> able to open your minds to see that there is more to law than your
>>>>>>>>>> narrow minded ways.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mr. MBA from Brooklyn
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/09, Jason S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I would agree that schools like Concord are good. However, EJD or
>>>>>>>>>>> Executive JD programs as worthless, because you can't give legal
>>>>>>>>>>> advice. I mean, whats the point, really?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And the 1L at Cleveland Marshall needs to learn how to spell.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason S.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/09, Cedric wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a very narrow view. I would recommend you take a look
>>>>>>>>>>> at who attends a
>>>>>>>>>>>> school like Concord, as you will find most already have
>>>>>>>>>>> achieved career success,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and have advanced degrees from some pretty impressive schools.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>> that you get into any law school does not mean you will become
>>>>>>>>>>> a lawyer, as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers show, only about 67&37; pass the bar on average, and
>>>>>>>>>>> some never take the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar, go figure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/09, Francis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/04/06, FRice wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone out there have any experience with one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these programs? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they worthwhile or a waste of time? Let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These programs are worthless if you want to go to LAW SCHOOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to one that is ABA aproved it's not that hard to achieve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dream of being a lawyer. Yes these non ABA aproved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs have eisier standards but you will have to pay for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them later. For instance Concorde Law School (Kaplin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> University Online) is non ABA aproved there students can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only take the Bar exam in a few places mainly CA and no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where else. while an ABA aproved JD holder is able to sit on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Bar exam. The EJD program offered by Concorde is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiste of time. best of luck in your search for the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Francis 1L Cleveland Marshall College of Law
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>