Re: Executive JD Programs Equal to MBAs in Law
Posted by A JD May Equal a JD on 11/27/09
You can say what you want, but apparently to some state bar examiners and some supreme courts(Mass). A JD is a JD, " if it allows you to take the bar its good". The fuyture no doubt will bring no states allowing on-line JD sudents to take bar exams. really lets be realistic a JD graduate from a ABA school who does not pass the bar is just that, a JD grad from an ABA school. To be a lawyer you must pass the bar or your just a law graduate. Do we know anyone who graduated fro an ABA law school but could not pass the bat even after multiple attempts. I know several who fall in that category, graduating from an ABA law school does not make you a lawyer. I say embrace online law education, that goes for the ABA schools too. On 11/27/09, A J.D. is not equal to but higher then a MBA wrote: > WRONG ! > > An eJ.D. degree from Concord is NOT a regionally accredited > degree and nor is their bar qualifying J.D. degree a regionally > accredited degree. > > P.S. J.D. degrees are only "accredited" > in the strictest sense of the term "accredited" from the American Bar > Association. > > > On 11/26/09, MS from Carolina wrote: >> It appears the opponents of Concord Law School's JD program have a somewhat >> outdated view. Check out the latest update on Wikipedia's entry for Concord >> Law School (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Law_School). It turns >> out that four Concord grads were admitted to practice before the US Supreme >> Court in March 2008 (see http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/computer-internet- >> law/7749376-1.html). Perhaps more importantly, the Supreme Court of >> Massachusetts ordered that state's Board of Bar Examiners to allow a Concord >> grad to sit for their bar exam in January 2009. This Concord grad promptly >> passed the Massachusetts bar in February 2009 (see >> http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_cbj.jsp? >> sCategoryPath=/Home/Attorney&37;20Resources/California&37;20Bar&37; >> 20Journal/January2009&sCatHtmlPath=cbj/2009- >> 01_TH_05_onlinelawschoolgrad.html&sCatHtmlTitle=Top&37;20Headlines). In > short, >> it appears any determined individual can attend Concord's JD program and >> enjoy a reasonably good chance of gaining admittance to just about any state >> bar in the US (as the Massachusetts Supreme Court will be considered >> persuasive authority on the subject). >> >> As for the debate on an eJD, there is only one relevant point. Concord's eJD >> is a professional doctorate degree. And since Concord is part of Kaplan >> University, a regionally accredited university, Concord's eJD is a >> regionally accredited, professional doctorate degree. For a number of >> positions in higher education, public administration and corporations in >> general, this is a very valuable credential. >> >> On 6/09/09, MBA from Wharton not as good as eJD? lol wrote: >>> "> Having said that, their are many a US law student who go to law school >>> and >>>> never intend to practice law. These folks just enjoy the academic >>>> challenge or seek a resume enhancing degree. >>>> >>> AND THOSE PEOPLE GO TO A REAL LAW SCHOOL ACCREDITED BY THE ABA, REGIONALLY >>> ACCREDITED AND A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF LAW SCHOOLS. >>> >>> not some mickey mouse law school in a guy's spare bedroom in his house, lol >>> >>> An accredited MBA from any accredited university is worth more then any >>> toilet paper unccredited eJD degree. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/09/09, Chip St.. John wrote: >>>> I look at EJD or Executive Juris Doctor degrees as a sort of masters >>>> degree in law for lay people or those that don't want to practice law, >>> but >>>> just want the legal knowledge an training >>>> >>>> We should all take note that while the Juris Doctor law degree in the US >>>> has been elevated to a higher level degree, in many countries the first >>>> law degree is usually an LLB, an undergraduate degree. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 6/09/09, Dom wrote: >>>>> EJDs have been very useful to many Americans. I would highly recommend >>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> 6/08/09, degree not meant for a CEO wrote: >>>>>> eJD degrees are unaccredited and thus useless in >>>>>> trying to use such a degree to get a job as a CEO. >>>>>> >>>>>> A juris doctor is meant for practicing law. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/01/09, BK Brooklyn wrote: >>>>>>> I disagree that EJD programs are worthless!! Go figure, some of you >>>>>>> are studying to become attorney's yet, your vision & outlook is >>>>>>> narrow. That's why attorney's are usually the worst when it comes >>>>>>> to working in the Corporate world. With an EJD you can position >>>>>>> yourself to become a CEO of an organization. While you do not give >>>>>>> advice or practice in a court room, the EJD gives you the >>>>>>> foundation to understand the law as it pertains to many fields. >>>>>>> Take the case of being a CEO, you can work closely with your Gen. >>>>>>> Counsel on matters and be able to understand and relate to issues >>>>>>> in M&A cases, lawsuits, Employee case related suits, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Therefore, the point you ignorant boneheads is that you need to be >>>>>>> able to open your minds to see that there is more to law than your >>>>>>> narrow minded ways. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr. MBA from Brooklyn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/24/09, Jason S. wrote: >>>>>>>> I would agree that schools like Concord are good. However, EJD or >>>>>>>> Executive JD programs as worthless, because you can't give legal >>>>>>>> advice. I mean, whats the point, really? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And the 1L at Cleveland Marshall needs to learn how to spell. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jason S. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/22/09, Cedric wrote: >>>>>>>>> That is a very narrow view. I would recommend you take a look >>>>>>>> at who attends a >>>>>>>>> school like Concord, as you will find most already have >>>>>>>> achieved career success, >>>>>>>>> and have advanced degrees from some pretty impressive schools. >>>>>>>> Also, the fact >>>>>>>>> that you get into any law school does not mean you will become >>>>>>>> a lawyer, as the >>>>>>>>> numbers show, only about 67&37; pass the bar on average, and >>>>>>>> some never take the >>>>>>>>> Bar, go figure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/10/09, Francis wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 1/04/06, FRice wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone out there have any experience with one of >>>>>>>>>>> these programs? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts. >>>>>>>>>>> Are they worthwhile or a waste of time? Let me know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> These programs are worthless if you want to go to LAW SCHOOL >>>>>>>>>> go to one that is ABA aproved it's not that hard to achieve >>>>>>>>>> the dream of being a lawyer. Yes these non ABA aproved >>>>>>>>>> programs have eisier standards but you will have to pay for >>>>>>>>>> them later. For instance Concorde Law School (Kaplin >>>>>>>>>> University Online) is non ABA aproved there students can >>>>>>>>>> only take the Bar exam in a few places mainly CA and no >>>>>>>>>> where else. while an ABA aproved JD holder is able to sit on >>>>>>>>>> any Bar exam. The EJD program offered by Concorde is a >>>>>>>>>> waiste of time. best of luck in your search for the right >>>>>>>>>> program. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Francis 1L Cleveland Marshall College of Law >>>>>>>>> >>>>>
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- Re: Executive JD Programs Equal to MBAs in Law, 11/26/09, by MS from Carolina.
- Re: Executive JD Programs Equal to MBAs in Law, 11/27/09, by A J.D. is not equal to but higher then a MBA.
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