Re: Executive JD Programs Equal to MBAs in Law

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2 different topics, I am talking about the J.D. degree
which is accredited by the American Bar Assocation.

Concord through Kaplan might be regionally accredited
but their J.D. degree is NOT accredited law degree !

On 11/27/09, A JD May Equal a JD wrote:
> You can say what you want, but apparently to some state bar examiners and some
> supreme courts(Mass). A JD is a JD, " if it allows you to take the bar its
> good". The fuyture no doubt will bring no states allowing on-line JD sudents to
> take bar exams.
> really lets be realistic a JD graduate from a ABA school who does not pass the
> bar is just that, a JD grad from an ABA school.
> To be a lawyer you must pass the bar or your just a law graduate. Do we know
> anyone who graduated fro an ABA law school but could not pass the bat even after
> multiple attempts. I know several who fall in that category, graduating from an
> ABA law school does not make you a lawyer. I say embrace online law education,
> that goes for the ABA schools too.
>
> On 11/27/09, A J.D. is not equal to but higher then a MBA wrote:
>> WRONG !
>>
>> An eJ.D. degree from Concord is NOT a regionally accredited
>> degree and nor is their bar qualifying J.D. degree a regionally
>> accredited degree.
>>
>> P.S. J.D. degrees are only "accredited"
>> in the strictest sense of the term "accredited" from the American Bar
>> Association.
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/09, MS from Carolina wrote:
>>> It appears the opponents of Concord Law School's JD program have a somewhat
>>> outdated view. Check out the latest update on Wikipedia's entry for Concord
>>> Law School (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Law_School). It turns
>>> out that four Concord grads were admitted to practice before the US Supreme
>>> Court in March 2008 (see http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/computer-internet-
>>> law/7749376-1.html). Perhaps more importantly, the Supreme Court of
>>> Massachusetts ordered that state's Board of Bar Examiners to allow a Concord
>>> grad to sit for their bar exam in January 2009. This Concord grad promptly
>>> passed the Massachusetts bar in February 2009 (see
>>> http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_cbj.jsp?
>>> sCategoryPath=/Home/Attorney&37;20Resources/California&37;20Bar&37;
>>> 20Journal/January2009&sCatHtmlPath=cbj/2009-
>>> 01_TH_05_onlinelawschoolgrad.html&sCatHtmlTitle=Top&37;20Headlines). In
>> short,
>>> it appears any determined individual can attend Concord's JD program and
>>> enjoy a reasonably good chance of gaining admittance to just about any state
>>> bar in the US (as the Massachusetts Supreme Court will be considered
>>> persuasive authority on the subject).
>>>
>>> As for the debate on an eJD, there is only one relevant point. Concord's eJD
>>> is a professional doctorate degree. And since Concord is part of Kaplan
>>> University, a regionally accredited university, Concord's eJD is a
>>> regionally accredited, professional doctorate degree. For a number of
>>> positions in higher education, public administration and corporations in
>>> general, this is a very valuable credential.
>>>
>>> On 6/09/09, MBA from Wharton not as good as eJD? lol wrote:
>>>> "> Having said that, their are many a US law student who go to law school
>>>> and
>>>>> never intend to practice law. These folks just enjoy the academic
>>>>> challenge or seek a resume enhancing degree.
>>>>>
>>>> AND THOSE PEOPLE GO TO A REAL LAW SCHOOL ACCREDITED BY THE ABA, REGIONALLY
>>>> ACCREDITED AND A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF LAW SCHOOLS.
>>>>
>>>> not some mickey mouse law school in a guy's spare bedroom in his house, lol
>>>>
>>>> An accredited MBA from any accredited university is worth more then any
>>>> toilet paper unccredited eJD degree.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/09/09, Chip St.. John wrote:
>>>>> I look at EJD or Executive Juris Doctor degrees as a sort of masters
>>>>> degree in law for lay people or those that don't want to practice law,
>>>> but
>>>>> just want the legal knowledge an training
>>>>>
>>>>> We should all take note that while the Juris Doctor law degree in the US
>>>>> has been elevated to a higher level degree, in many countries the first
>>>>> law degree is usually an LLB, an undergraduate degree.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/09/09, Dom wrote:
>>>>>> EJDs have been very useful to many Americans. I would highly recommend
>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6/08/09, degree not meant for a CEO wrote:
>>>>>>> eJD degrees are unaccredited and thus useless in
>>>>>>> trying to use such a degree to get a job as a CEO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A juris doctor is meant for practicing law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/01/09, BK Brooklyn wrote:
>>>>>>>> I disagree that EJD programs are worthless!! Go figure, some of you
>>>>>>>> are studying to become attorney's yet, your vision & outlook is
>>>>>>>> narrow. That's why attorney's are usually the worst when it comes
>>>>>>>> to working in the Corporate world. With an EJD you can position
>>>>>>>> yourself to become a CEO of an organization. While you do not give
>>>>>>>> advice or practice in a court room, the EJD gives you the
>>>>>>>> foundation to understand the law as it pertains to many fields.
>>>>>>>> Take the case of being a CEO, you can work closely with your Gen.
>>>>>>>> Counsel on matters and be able to understand and relate to issues
>>>>>>>> in M&A cases, lawsuits, Employee case related suits, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Therefore, the point you ignorant boneheads is that you need to be
>>>>>>>> able to open your minds to see that there is more to law than your
>>>>>>>> narrow minded ways.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mr. MBA from Brooklyn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/24/09, Jason S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I would agree that schools like Concord are good. However, EJD or
>>>>>>>>> Executive JD programs as worthless, because you can't give legal
>>>>>>>>> advice. I mean, whats the point, really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the 1L at Cleveland Marshall needs to learn how to spell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason S.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/09, Cedric wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> That is a very narrow view. I would recommend you take a look
>>>>>>>>> at who attends a
>>>>>>>>>> school like Concord, as you will find most already have
>>>>>>>>> achieved career success,
>>>>>>>>>> and have advanced degrees from some pretty impressive schools.
>>>>>>>>> Also, the fact
>>>>>>>>>> that you get into any law school does not mean you will become
>>>>>>>>> a lawyer, as the
>>>>>>>>>> numbers show, only about 67&37; pass the bar on average, and
>>>>>>>>> some never take the
>>>>>>>>>> Bar, go figure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/09, Francis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/04/06, FRice wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone out there have any experience with one of
>>>>>>>>>>>> these programs? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they worthwhile or a waste of time? Let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These programs are worthless if you want to go to LAW SCHOOL
>>>>>>>>>>> go to one that is ABA aproved it's not that hard to achieve
>>>>>>>>>>> the dream of being a lawyer. Yes these non ABA aproved
>>>>>>>>>>> programs have eisier standards but you will have to pay for
>>>>>>>>>>> them later. For instance Concorde Law School (Kaplin
>>>>>>>>>>> University Online) is non ABA aproved there students can
>>>>>>>>>>> only take the Bar exam in a few places mainly CA and no
>>>>>>>>>>> where else. while an ABA aproved JD holder is able to sit on
>>>>>>>>>>> any Bar exam. The EJD program offered by Concorde is a
>>>>>>>>>>> waiste of time. best of luck in your search for the right
>>>>>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Francis 1L Cleveland Marshall College of Law
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>