Re: Executive JD Programs NOT Equal to MBAs in Law

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On 2/26/10, Cedric Johnson wrote:
> On 1/14/10, Real Law Degree wrote:
>> Why would you get an eJD degree?
>>
>> They are a piece of crap and a worthless degree.
>>
>> Cant you just get a real law degree?
>>
>> On 1/13/10, SSDI Future Rep wrote:
>>> Question for all the smart people on this law student chat board. I was noticing that the
>>> Social Security Administration will let anyone, id est. a paralegal, M.D., psychologist,
>>> former SSA employees, laymen or just about anyone represent another person before an SSA
>>> administrative law judge at a disability hearing.
>>>
>>> All these people are called "claimant representatives" for SSA purposes. Both lawyers and
>>> other folk can represent anyone before the SSA while prosecuting a disability claim.
>>>
>>> The SSA will compensate any representative, attorney or not a 25&37; of the retroactive DIB
>>> benefit.
>>>
>>> SSA says that the "representative" must be able to provide valuable assistant / service to
>> a
>>> disability claimant. This is the standard for allowing a peson to be a representative in
>> SSA
>>> quasi-law administrative court.
>>>
>>> Here's the question?, Can the the holder of an Executive Juris Doctor degree claim that by
>>> virtue of his/her legal education and training, that he/she is able or better able to
>>> provide substantive and valuable assistance to a disability claimant. Can the eJD be used
>> as
>>> "evidence" of ability or training in law that would benefit SSDI claimants.
>>>
>>> Also note that SSD is a administrative law court, federal in nature and non-lawyers can
>>> practice before SSA in any State. Also note atleast one State has said that SSA's
>> disability
>>> practice by non-lawyer is " authorized practice of law by non-lawyers".
>>>
>>> While SS Disability is not the most lucrative law practice there are thousands of lawyers
>>> that bring home the bacon from SSA's 25 percent retroactive.
>>>
>>> Can an EJD be a valuable credential for SSA Representative purposes?
>>>
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>>> On 1/06/10, What a Waste ! wrote:
>>>> A eJD "degree" from a "law school" not requlated
>>>> or authorized by the State Bar is essentially
>>>> a piece of paper not worthy of wiping yourself with.
>>>>
>>>> Serious spend your money on good quality 2 ply
>>>> TP, it has more value.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/06/10, Res Ipsa wrote:
>>>>> I agree with you. However, I would like to clarify: these schools can actually offer
>>>>> EJDs, they are just not recognized by the bar. Any school can offer an EJD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Res Ipsa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/05/10, executive JD as dumb as executive MD wrote:
>>>>>> They are approved by DETC, however, the Cal Bar NO LONGER
>>>>>> allows law schools to offer the executive JD degree. So any existing
>>>>>> school that doesnt have the degree already can not offer
>>>>>> it and any new law school opening its door can not offer
>>>>>> the degree as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesnt matter; an executive JD degree is for sissies that
>>>>>> are unable to pass the bar. Simple as that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why pay for a degree that says executive JD on it and then
>>>>>> go around explaining to everyone you have a unique law
>>>>>> degree, "I have a law degree but it doesnt allow me
>>>>>> to take the bar or practice law" It is stupid, period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/05/10, steve wrote:
>>>>>>> Both Concord and Taft still offer executive JD because DETC approves them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/05/10, Julia wrote:
>>>>>>>> Which schools presently offer an executive J.D program besides Concord? It
>>>>>>>> seems like it is a dying breed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I sense a lot of bitterness in many of the post and I wonder why. If you have a degree
from a ABA approved law
> school great, go forth and be productive. As I see it we have over two million lawyers in the
US, and the great majority
> make what amounts to middle management money. I have encountered many, Bar certified, who
quickly move on to other
> things, and the degree is simply a sign of accomplishment, and a great credential. The MBA is
a Ubiquitous degree that can
> be had in as little as 18 months, and in no way measures up to any JD from an accredited law
school. It is very narrow
> minded to view education in terms of what is best for you. We all learn in many ways, and it
takes a sharp mind to do it on
> your own, which is what online and distance learning is all about. As I read through the post I
thought it prudent to check
> and see if the primary California school continued to offer the Executive Juris Doctor, and see
that they continue, despite
> comments going back to 2006 stating they would be out of business. Finally, the Executive
portion of the JD only relates
> the type of program focus. I don't think it is required to make note of your program emphasis
as many school offer
> Executive degree program, but don't print Executive on the actual degree. Be proud of what you
have and have
> accomplished, and stop attempting to elevate yourself by downing others.

What elevating? More like a warning to the wise. Heck Cooley is better than that. And they take
anyone.