Re: Wisconsin/Washington/DC/St of Washington Bars

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On 12/15/07, LD wrote:
> The active legal exp is if you want to take wash 1st. IF you take CA, you can
> sit. You HAVE TO PASS CA 1st. ALSO., West Virginia and Vermont allow you to
> sit for their bar if you pass CA 1st. Check with them yourself. But
> washington -you are correct if you dont take CA 1st. Check it out yourself. We
> do have many options now as DL STUDENTS
>
If you want to take the Washington State bar and you did not graduate from an
ABA school in the past, you MUST have 3 years active licensed practice in
another state. You can not pass the CA bar with a DL degree and take the Wash
bar right away. Read the Wash state qualifications carefully--it is
misinformation to say you can take their exam right after passing CA with a DL
degree.
>
>
> On 12/09/07, -- wrote:
>> On 12/09/07, LD wrote:
>>> THe online law schools book is correct, I emailed wasa site--washington
>>> bar----Once you pass the CA bar, even with a NON ABA, you can sit for the
>>> St of washington. Email their bar admissions, tell them you are going to
>>> get a non aba and take the ca. He told me once you pass CA, you can sit
>>> for washington. I have the email
>>>
>>
>> Does your email mention that you must have had "active legal experience for
>> at least 3 of the 5 years immediately preceding the filing of the
>> application." [See below, "Qualifications to take the Washington State Bar
>> Examination" at iii.]
>>>
>>>>> Qualifications to take the Washington State Bar Examination
>>>>
>>>> The qualifications to take the bar examination are stated in APR 3 which
>>>> requires the applicant to be of good moral character and to present
>>>> satisfactory proof of:
>>>> (i) graduation from an ABA approved law school;
>>>> OR
>>>> (ii) completion of the APR 6 law clerk program;
>>>> OR
>>>> (iii) admission to the practice of law by examination, together with
>>>> current good standing, in any state or territory of the U.S. or in
>>>> Washington, D.C., or any jurisdiction where the common law of England is
>>>> the basis of its jurisprudence, and active legal experience for at least
>>>> 3 of the 5 years immediately preceding the filing of the application.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/25/07, -- wrote:
>>>> The online book you keep quoting appears to be somewhat misleading.
>>>> An applicant for the Washington St. bar must be an ABA graduate OR
>>>> complete the APR 6 law clerk program. The APR program does not require
>>>> ANY law school experience ABA or otherwise but you must be a working law
>>>> clerk to enter the program and frankly it will take you longer to be
>>>> admitted than if you just went to Law School. There is a provision that
>>>> you may receive some credit for non-ABA classes but it is a minimal
>>>> amount of credit and even with credit you are looking at a much longer
>>>> and more difficult program than an ABA school. At least you can work
>>>> for slave wages while you complete the program--if you can find a
>>>> qualified judge or attorney to accept you. Your book sounds like it is
>>>> the result of poor research or "feel good" information for non-ABA
>>>> students. Below are the WA requirements, which like all other states,
>>>> can be found for free online.
>>>> ********************** ************* **************
>>>> Qualifications to take the Washington State Bar Examination
>>>>
>>>> The qualifications to take the bar examination are stated in APR 3 which
>>>> requires the applicant to be of good moral character and to present
>>>> satisfactory proof of:
>>>> (i) graduation from an ABA approved law school;
>>>> OR
>>>> (ii) completion of the APR 6 law clerk program;
>>>> OR
>>>> (iii) admission to the practice of law by examination, together with
>>>> current good standing, in any state or territory of the U.S. or in
>>>> Washington, D.C., or any jurisdiction where the common law of England is
>>>> the basis of its jurisprudence, and active legal experience for at least
>>>> 3 of the 5 years immediately preceding the filing of the application.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/07, Aleida wrote:
>>>>> The Online Law Schools Book also has info on sitting for other bars.
>>>>> If you live in 1 of these states, go for it. You can now sit for the
>>>>> Wisconsin and St of Washington Bars with a correspondence JD Degree.
>>>>> And with an LLM like I mentioned below, the DC bar, Immed. CHeck it
>>>>> out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/25/07, Aleida wrote:
>>>>>> I have seen a copy of the Online Law Schools book that details the
>>>>>> ST Thomas Program closing and now being Run in San Diego at Thomas
>>>>>> Jefferson-still an ABA. There are other completely online LLM
>>>>>> programs that I was unaware of. This is great as I am getting my LLB
>>>>>> and In CA if you have the LLM, you dont have to take the Baby Bar.
>>>>>> And you can sit for the DC bar also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/01/06, justicelawyer wrote:
>>>>>>> Today St. Thomas University School of LAw in Miami Florida
>>>>>>> announced it no longer offers the LL.M degree online.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This decision along with the Calif Dunn bill passing is slowly
>>>>>>> closing the loopholes to becoming a lawyer other then the
>>>>>>> traditional classroom route.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By 2008 or 2009 most online law schools in California will be
>>>>>>> closed due to the Dunn Bill and its requirements for those type of
>>>>>>> law schools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> California is slowly working behind the scene to close the last
>>>>>>> remaining viable option other then attending a traditional ABA law
>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Call St. Thomas for details on the closing down of the online LL.M
>>>>>>> degree!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/28/06, Linda wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/28/06, Linda wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/01/06, hraimey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/04/06, FRice wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone out there have any experience with one of
>>>>>>>>>>> these programs? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>> Are they worthwhile or a waste of time? Let me know.
>>>>>>>>>> I have researched the exec jd program. my understanding is
>>>>>>>>>> that it for individuals seeking the accreditation of a law
>>>>>>>>>> degree but not necessarily those who wish to practice law.
>>>>>>>>>> It may be helpful to those seeking career opportunities in
>>>>>>>>>> governmental agencies such the FBI, INS, or IRS. It may
>>>>>>>>>> also be beneficial for people seeking in-counsel positions
>>>>>>>>>> in the corporate arena. I have a list of career and job
>>>>>>>>>> descriptions available for the exec program if you are
>>>>>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am interested in the list of career and job descriptions
>>>>>>>> mentioned in the last sentence above. Has anyone in the
>>>>>>> meantime
>>>>>>>> know anything more about this program and whether it is
>>>>>>>> worthwhile or not?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>