Re: Executive JD Programs NOT Equal to MBAs in Law

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On 1/14/10, Real Law Degree wrote:
> Why would you get an eJD degree?
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> They are a piece of crap and a worthless degree.
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> Cant you just get a real law degree?
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> On 1/13/10, SSDI Future Rep wrote:
>> Question for all the smart people on this law student chat board. I was noticing that the
>> Social Security Administration will let anyone, id est. a paralegal, M.D., psychologist,
>> former SSA employees, laymen or just about anyone represent another person before an SSA
>> administrative law judge at a disability hearing.
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>> All these people are called "claimant representatives" for SSA purposes. Both lawyers and
>> other folk can represent anyone before the SSA while prosecuting a disability claim.
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>> The SSA will compensate any representative, attorney or not a 25&37; of the retroactive DIB
>> benefit.
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>> SSA says that the "representative" must be able to provide valuable assistant / service to
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>> disability claimant. This is the standard for allowing a peson to be a representative in
> SSA
>> quasi-law administrative court.
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>> Here's the question?, Can the the holder of an Executive Juris Doctor degree claim that by
>> virtue of his/her legal education and training, that he/she is able or better able to
>> provide substantive and valuable assistance to a disability claimant. Can the eJD be used
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>> "evidence" of ability or training in law that would benefit SSDI claimants.
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>> Also note that SSD is a administrative law court, federal in nature and non-lawyers can
>> practice before SSA in any State. Also note atleast one State has said that SSA's
> disability
>> practice by non-lawyer is " authorized practice of law by non-lawyers".
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>> While SS Disability is not the most lucrative law practice there are thousands of lawyers
>> that bring home the bacon from SSA's 25 percent retroactive.
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>> Can an EJD be a valuable credential for SSA Representative purposes?
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>> On 1/06/10, What a Waste ! wrote:
>>> A eJD "degree" from a "law school" not requlated
>>> or authorized by the State Bar is essentially
>>> a piece of paper not worthy of wiping yourself with.
>>>
>>> Serious spend your money on good quality 2 ply
>>> TP, it has more value.
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>>> On 1/06/10, Res Ipsa wrote:
>>>> I agree with you. However, I would like to clarify: these schools can actually offer
>>>> EJDs, they are just not recognized by the bar. Any school can offer an EJD.
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>>>> Res Ipsa
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>>>> On 1/05/10, executive JD as dumb as executive MD wrote:
>>>>> They are approved by DETC, however, the Cal Bar NO LONGER
>>>>> allows law schools to offer the executive JD degree. So any existing
>>>>> school that doesnt have the degree already can not offer
>>>>> it and any new law school opening its door can not offer
>>>>> the degree as well.
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>>>>> Doesnt matter; an executive JD degree is for sissies that
>>>>> are unable to pass the bar. Simple as that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why pay for a degree that says executive JD on it and then
>>>>> go around explaining to everyone you have a unique law
>>>>> degree, "I have a law degree but it doesnt allow me
>>>>> to take the bar or practice law" It is stupid, period.
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>>>>> On 1/05/10, steve wrote:
>>>>>> Both Concord and Taft still offer executive JD because DETC approves them.
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>>>>>> On 1/05/10, Julia wrote:
>>>>>>> Which schools presently offer an executive J.D program besides Concord? It
>>>>>>> seems like it is a dying breed.
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>>>>>>I sense a lot of bitterness in many of the post and I wonder why. If you have a degree from a ABA approved law
school great, go forth and be productive. As I see it we have over two million lawyers in the US, and the great majority
make what amounts to middle management money. I have encountered many, Bar certified, who quickly move on to other
things, and the degree is simply a sign of accomplishment, and a great credential. The MBA is a Ubiquitous degree that can
be had in as little as 18 months, and in no way measures up to any JD from an accredited law school. It is very narrow
minded to view education in terms of what is best for you. We all learn in many ways, and it takes a sharp mind to do it on
your own, which is what online and distance learning is all about. As I read through the post I thought it prudent to check
and see if the primary California school continued to offer the Executive Juris Doctor, and see that they continue, despite
comments going back to 2006 stating they would be out of business. Finally, the Executive portion of the JD only relates
the type of program focus. I don't think it is required to make note of your program emphasis as many school offer
Executive degree program, but don't print Executive on the actual degree. Be proud of what you have and have
accomplished, and stop attempting to elevate yourself by downing others.