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Re: Toyota Owners (online) Unite for Resolution: Engine Slu
Posted by Brad on 7/29/07

    Whoops, should have also sent my salutations to you to Grant since you must be an employee of
    Toyota also, well, say what you want Grant, you won't convince me to buy another one of your
    products either...Sayonara to you too and Toyota...best of luck on your new Marketting campaign!!!
    On 7/29/07, Brad wrote:
    > Well Ben, I personnally believe that you and your side kick Grayden (can't believe you don't know
    > how to sp his name) because he and you are obviously working the same side of the manure
    > pile...i.e. you wouldn't happen to be P.R. for Toyota would you??? Maybe Lawyers??? how about a
    > couple of p-puffers smoking the same end of the pipe??? I hope that anyone who have attempted to
    > gain any "reputable" info off this site stear clear from you two, and, both of you need to avoid
    > drug sniffing dogs!!!! Incidentally DS, what in the heck are you talking about what it cost me
    > for repairs...dipstick, it was covered under warranty, what I said was that IF, and I restate IF
    > the engine were destroyed and need replacement, it would cost around $10,000 (engine and labor).
    > Now, how would you know what it would cost unless you are/work for Toyota...I think one of the
    > previous inserts nailed you down quite well...steer clear from you...you work for Toyota...Cover
    > Blown Aye???
    > Well, enuff said, I stated my situation, hope it helps those that have/have not as yet gone thru
    > the trouble as I have!!! Good luck to all!! Sayonara to you two Ben and Grayden!!!
    >> Well "Brad", you sure know how to spin a yarn, don't you!
    >> Only one little problem...you aren't too honest in the telling, and it shows.
    >> Old Grant is right on the money in calling a spade "a spade" too!
    >> You're one of those devoted Charlene Blake supporters...aka "a shill".
    >> Your story about that 02 Highlander doesn't wash...not one single bit!!
    >> You know it's a pretty safe bet that no dealer is going to give out info to a perfect
    >> stranger, so it's a no risk situation making up that story about checking you out!!
    >> Like Graydan (sp??) says, the story is just a little too pat, too scripted....just fresh out
    >> of the Charlene Blake playbook.
    >> Oh and by the way, a 2002 Highlander may very well have been serviced for oil consumption, but
    >> it certainly didn't cost what you say it did...not anywhere near that amount.
    >> What a distortion...do you think everyone is so naive as to believe it?
    >> Not only that, but if it was really serviced for oil consumption, what is conspiculously
    >> absent are the other little "details", like what condition it was in, mileage, maintenance
    >> records, how it was treated in the past four years, etc....you know...all those pertinent
    >> details which tell the real story, but aren't disclosed because they reveal the truth.
    >>
    >> But anyway, keep trying. Surely there are some who will support your little charade.
    >> But I certainly don't!!
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 7/29/07, bn wrote:
    >>> Guess what Grayden...YOU ARE WRONG!!!!! But as I mentioned in my last posting to Ben, you
    >> are
    >>> entitled to your opinion, however misguided it may be. Ben also mentioned in his insinuated
    >>> in his message that I was only after a "freebie" to which I also say WRONG!!! Why in the f---
    >>
    >>> would I trade the piece of you know what on a new Nissan if I were TRULEY after a "freebie".
    >>> Wakeup people "the coffee's on!" And if that seems to scripted for you, contact Bismarck
    >>> Honda/Nissan and check out my story, oh, and why don't you contact Cedric Theel Toyota and
    >>> check into whether I bought a 2002 Toyota Highlander new and also ask them if it was
    >> serviced
    >>> for oil consumption/sludging in January of 2007...Then wrap it all into a tight little ball
    >>> and...oh whatever...On 7/28/07, Grayden Chapman wrote:
    >>>> Guess what, Brad.
    >>>> I don't believe you or your story either.
    >>>> It's just a little too pat, just a little too scripted, just a little too much like many
    >>>> of the Charlene Blake illusions.
    >>>> I think you are either being impersonated by her, or you are one of her loyal but
    >>>> misdirected sycophants trying to give her overplayed cause a boost!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 7/28/07, Brad Newman wrote:
    >>>>> Sorry Ben if my piece appears to you or others to be one of Ms Blake's loyal followers,
    >>>>> truth be known, I have no idea who she is or what she has written beyond the few inserts
    >>>>> of her's that I observed. My situation is that of factual, 1st handed accounts of what I
    >>>>> feel was a major injustice to myself and the numerous others who have fallen prey to
    >>>>> Toyota's scam. I was at the time that this all transpired looking forward to the 9
    >>>>> payments...and consequently lack of payments in the 9 short months left when I had to
    >>>>> start all back over. You want to talk about disgust??? I am sure however I was not the
    >>>>> only one to feel this way...fortunately for me, I can afford to replace, how about the
    >>>>> other so-called Blake followers who can't, that are left holding the Toyota "snipe bag?"
    >>>>> Things that weren't entered on my piece were also the fact that replacement cost on the
    >>>>> 3.0 L engine was in the neighborhood of $10,000. I guess after spending some $33,000 on
    >>>> a
    >>>>> new vehicle and staring at this kind of repair bill possibility after only 49,600 miles,
    >>>>> and the numerous malicious attempts at deceipt on probable cause, I can tell you as I
    >>>> did
    >>>>> Toyota and their sales/service shop, there will never be another Toyota finger entering
    >>>>> my pocket. If expressing my concern to inform others of the possible s-job they MAY get
    >>>>> from purchasing a vehicle which may financially cripple them makes me a "follower" then
    >>>>> so be it. Each of us have a right to our opinions. All I can and will say beyond this is
    >>>>> Caveat Emptor...may the buyer beware, and thank goodness the internet has created a
    >>>>> vehicle to which most all can get accounts on what works, and what doesn't before
    >>>>> purchasing. Incidently, "Consumer Reports" also was used in my decision making on the
    >>>>> vehicle purchase, not Charlene Blake. Neither of the two were used in buying my Nissan.
    >>>>> On 7/27/07, Ben Voulin wrote:
    >>>>>> With all due respect to "Brad Newman's" impassioned rhetoric about the evils of
    >>>>>> Toyota, it is quite clearly a piece of fictional prose created by the one and only
    >>>>>> Charlene Blake--and/or possibly one of her loyal following--the freebie seekers.
    >>>>>> You know that type--Sue to live, and live to sue!
    >>>>>> Ms. Blake is noted for illusion and deception.
    >>>>>> It is not unusual to see a piece of fiction like this authored by her to plump up
    >>>>>> interest in her camapaign.
    >>>>>> It is not unusual for her to bombard a given forum with a large number of sequential
    >>>>>> posts all touting the same convoluted message of wrongful blame.
    >>>>>> Unfortunately (for her) she does it too regularly, especially when anyone expresses
    >>>>>> their disbelief in some of her contrived claims about sludge.
    >>>>>> Her handiwork is painfully transparent.
    >>>>>> Truth be told, not every case of sludge is due to neglect, and not every case of
    >>>>>> sludge is due to any sort of inherent engine problem.
    >>>>>> The reality of this issue is that there are many causes for the problem, and it cannot
    >>>>>> rightfully be blamed exclusively on one single thing.
    >>>>>> Blake chooses to blame every case of sludge on only one thing, and her single minded
    >>>>>> conclusion is wrong.
    >>>>>> Not only is it wrong, but by singling out only one cause, she is creating a hugely
    >>>>>> unjust impression.
    >>>>>> The "Brad Newman" piece is yet another example of her ill conceived campaign.
    >>>>>> Sorry folks, but it's the truth!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 7/27/07, Brad Newman wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On January 14th, 2002, after much study and test-driving new SUV's, I bought what I
    >>>>>>> had believed to be the BEST SUV for my money, Toyota Highlander. December of 2006 I
    >>>>>>> received the notification of class action lawsuit which, not realizing the
    >>>>>> situations
    >>>>>>> involved placed it into the glove compartment of my 2002 Highlander. January of
    >>>>>> 2007,
    >>>>>>> took two trips, one trip was 450 miles round, and the following weekend, 400 miles
    >>>>>>> round trip. After the first trip, the Highlander used 2 1/2 quarts of oil and the
    >>>>>>> second trip consumed 3 quarts of oil. I took my Toyota to the dealership where I
    >>>>>>> purchased it from and got the same BS as other people were receiving, that,
    >>>>>>> negligence would be the only cause for oil consumption and oil sludging. Being a
    >>>>>> self-
    >>>>>>> aclaimed "back-yard mechanic," I can and will attest to the fact that #1 my vehicle
    >>>>>>> was/had NEVER been neglected as all oil changes performed were by myself with the
    >>>>>>> BEST quality engine oil available, and #2 that what I had experienced was oil
    >>>>>>> sludging. I took, as I had said, the vehicle back to the dealership where I had
    >>>>>>> purchased it, and after repeated denials by Toyota repair center to oil sludging as
    >>>>>>> being a possibility, took the mechanic by the hand to my vehicle, removed the oil
    >>>>>>> fill cap and wringed the inside of cap with finger and asked him to describe the
    >>>>>> grit
    >>>>>>> which I removed from it. His response was (quote) "engine oil sludge." At this
    >>>>>> point,
    >>>>>>> I insisted on further inspection to determine the amount of damage, to include,
    >>>>>>> removal of oil pan and inspection and compression checks on all cylinders. I
    >>>>>> received
    >>>>>>> phone call from tech stating that he found no appreciable wear, and that he could
    >>>>>> not
    >>>>>>> find the cause for engine sludging. I then asked him what his intensions were at
    >>>>>> that
    >>>>>>> point and he said reassembly of pan. I told him BS, get to the bottom of the problem
    >>>>>>> and repair vehicle, some time later I received call stating that he found problem
    >>>>>> and
    >>>>>>> rectified...new valve covers. Now, being a person that has not only repaired
    >>>>>>> vehicles, and also built engines, I also know what causes sludging...to say the
    >>>>>>> least, I am not easily fooled. I returned to the dealership, picked up my Highlander
    >>>>>>> and the next hour watched it metamorphasize from a Toyota Highlander to a 2007
    >>>>>> Nissan
    >>>>>>> Murano. I do not like being deceived, and being accused of neglect when I know
    >>>>>>> better, and, contrary to some of the beliefs written about Charlene, I believe she
    >>>>>>> hit the nail on the head...people need to know the truth about Toyota, and whoever
    >>>>>>> else may be scamming the public out of their money...the last thing Toyota heard
    >>>>>> from
    >>>>>>> me was that they would never feel the inside of my billfold again...hopefully Nissan
    >>>>>>> doesn't make the same mistake!!!!

     
     

 
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