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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by Randolph Scott on 9/05/07

    "I am brand new to this conversation but just thought I would give an objective
    opinion about my personal Toyota vehicle"

    That statement is about as credible as a guarantee of a lottery win!!
    Debbie, you are just another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    Your post is just so PHONY!!!

    On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    > I am brand new to this conversation but just thought I would give an objective
    > opinion about my personal Toyota vehicle.
    >
    > After opting for a Toyota instead of a Honda back in 2003, when I bought my 2000
    > Sienna, I have had nothing but problems with it. I bought if from the dealer as
    > a "Certified Vehicle".
    >
    > 1. We have a mysterious "oil problem" that even our longtime mechanic can't
    > figure out. The oil just disappears.
    >
    > 2. Also, all four of the door handles on my van are broken. I just got off the
    > phone with the dealer to see about fixing them because now that all four of them
    > are broken, only one of them allows us to even get in the van, and then we have to
    > climb in and open all the other doors from the inside. A really annoying side
    > effect when you are hauling around 4 kids all the time. By the way, it's about
    > $300 each to fix them. Don't know what I'm going to do yet. It's hardly worth
    > putting $1200 into my 6 year old van. The one door handle we can still open the
    > van with is literally in pieces. We've just managed to keep it together because
    > it's the driver's door handle and I have banned anyone from opening it but me for
    > fear that it will just fall apart.
    >
    > 3. My sending unit went out while the van was still under warranty, a very
    > unusual problem. Even though the dealer admitted it was an unusual problem and
    > shouldn't have happened, they wouldn't cover it under the warranty.
    >
    > 4. Various small things have broken, like the handle that adjusts the back of one
    > of the back bucket seats, has broken. All the cup holders are very flimsy and
    > several of them have broken. The plastic back of one of the seats just
    > mysteriously fell off. You can't plug certain things into the lighter sockets or
    > they will short and blow fuses, and multiple other problems. All of these
    > problems have occured before the van hit 100,000 miles. The gas mileage is
    > horrible. I'm lucky to get 15 miles to the gallon. Not even close to their
    > claims. Also, ever since my first flat tire, the out of balance light on my dash
    > has never gone back off. I've had new tires twice since then and it seems nothing
    > will keep the darn thing in balance. The dealer basically says, oh well, it's
    > just a light. I wouldn't worry about it. Also, the remote key entry never
    > worked. It hasn't worked since I got it.
    >
    > All I have to say is that I will never buy another Toyota vehicle. For a brand
    > that has been supposedly one of the most reliable and best built vehicles made, I
    > have been extremely disappointed. I don't feel the least bit sorry for or
    > concerned about the dealer. If others have had the problems I've had and can get
    > the dealer to cover some of their expenses, more power to them. I feel that I
    > paid top dollar for a very poor performing vehicle and will just stick with Honda
    > from now on. I've owned many Hondas over the years and never had any of these
    > problems.
    >
    >
    > On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman wrote:
    >> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS AND OTHER THINGS,
    >> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT ANY FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>
    >> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE, I AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING THAT OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I SEE IT.
    >> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY ONE DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU CHARLENE BLAKE. I THINK
    >> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO
    >> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER HOW UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT MAY BE.
    >> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO IT ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >> YOU ARE A PHONY, A CHARLATAN, AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE CHEAP
    >> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME.
    >> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH YOUR TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE MORE YOU SAY, THE
    >> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman wrote:
    >>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE, I AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING THAT OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I SEE IT.
    >>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY ONE DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU CHARLENE BLAKE. I THINK
    >>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO
    >>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER HOW UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT MAY BE.
    >>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO IT ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE CHEAP THEATRICS.
    >>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH YOUR TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE MORE YOU SAY, THE
    >>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I CHOOSE TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO IN
    >>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A YELLING MODE, TOO
    >>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 8/21/07, Charlene Blake wrote:
    >>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman wrote:
    >>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE BY CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE SUSPICIOUS THAN EVER
    >>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>
    >>>> Are you implying that the Toyota owners are conning Toyota? I see it
    >>>> now...poor automaker backed into a corner by Toyota owner conspiracy!
    >>>>
    >>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna vans have a problem with STICKING sliding door locks.
    >>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota BLAMES the owners!
    >>>> Toyota has NOT issued a very important SAFETY RECALL for this problem!
    >>>> Toyota is therefore putting the Toyota owners and their families,
    >>>> particularly small children, at risk.
    >>>>
    >>>> Now, if you want an open, public debate about this problem, I am happy to
    >>>> oblige. You are using all capital letters in a "yelling" mode. This is not
    >>>> necessary and is actually offensive to many.
    >>>>
    >>>> The issue is does Toyota have a problem with the *sticking sliding doors* or
    >>>> not. If you can disprove the facts that the Toyota owners are providing,
    >>>> then please do so. The dealerships have admitted a problem with this for
    >>>> YEARS according to many internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>
    >>>> Face it. Help the Toyota owners! The manufacturer doesn't need your
    >>>> protection, does it? OR, does it?????
    >>>>
    >>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>> Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution

     
     

 
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