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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by Randolph Scott on 9/08/07

    Dear Miss Debbie:

    In spite of your feeble protestations to the contrary, your story is still a crock of
    meaningless crap.
    Anybody can post statements like you just did, make ridiculous claims about "I Have
    Receipts", and then expect others to believe them.
    That won't make any of such crap more beievable.
    Perhaps some will believe your story, but I certainly don't.
    If you're so convinced that "receipts" are proof,don't send them to me--- post them
    here!! It's actually easier to do.
    And make sure they're not just phonied up ones!!
    I await your so called "receipts". (LOL!!)

    Otherwise your lies are on record
    On 9/07/07, Debbie wrote:
    > Mr. Scott,
    >
    > If you like, I can email you a copy of my receipt, dated today, for the FOUR door
    > handles that I just purchased from the Toyota dealer in my area. I ordered them on
    > the day I originally posted this message and they came in today. I paid $335 for the
    > four handles and then will pay another $400 to my mechanic to install them.
    >
    > I have no reason to make up a story or facts. I'm just stating the truth about my own
    > experience and you are very rude and presumptuous to call me a liar. I have
    > absolutely no reason to lie and, in fact, since I had researched many, many vehicles
    > and came to the conclusion that my Toyota would be a good buy, my initial compulsion
    > would be to defend my decision.
    >
    > However, the vehicle speaks for itself and I have no other motive than to inform other
    > people of the possible problems they could face if they make the same decision I did.
    >
    > I truly hope that if you are a Toyota owner, that your experience has been better than
    > mine. If so, good for you. Either way, you have no place assuming that mine, or any
    > other claims, are untrue.
    >
    > I can assure you that every single thing I said is true and 100&37; accurate. This is
    > the first time I have ever posted on a website like this and I have not posted
    > anything else on this site or any other before. This is just an honest account of my
    > own experience. And, by the way, I have never received any compensation of any kind
    > from Toyota for the problems I have encountered. Although I believe that there are
    > some major design flaws that have caused these problems, I personally have not
    > benefited from any legal proceedings that have taken place.
    >
    >
    > On 9/05/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    >> "I am brand new to this conversation but just thought I would give an objective
    >> opinion about my personal Toyota vehicle"
    >>
    >> That statement is about as credible as a guarantee of a lottery win!!
    >> Debbie, you are just another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    >> Your post is just so PHONY!!!
    >>
    >> On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>> I am brand new to this conversation but just thought I would give an objective
    >>> opinion about my personal Toyota vehicle.
    >>>
    >>> After opting for a Toyota instead of a Honda back in 2003, when I bought my 2000
    >>> Sienna, I have had nothing but problems with it. I bought if from the dealer as
    >>> a "Certified Vehicle".
    >>>
    >>> 1. We have a mysterious "oil problem" that even our longtime mechanic can't
    >>> figure out. The oil just disappears.
    >>>
    >>> 2. Also, all four of the door handles on my van are broken. I just got off the
    >>> phone with the dealer to see about fixing them because now that all four of them
    >>> are broken, only one of them allows us to even get in the van, and then we have to
    >>> climb in and open all the other doors from the inside. A really annoying side
    >>> effect when you are hauling around 4 kids all the time. By the way, it's about
    >>> $300 each to fix them. Don't know what I'm going to do yet. It's hardly worth
    >>> putting $1200 into my 6 year old van. The one door handle we can still open the
    >>> van with is literally in pieces. We've just managed to keep it together because
    >>> it's the driver's door handle and I have banned anyone from opening it but me for
    >>> fear that it will just fall apart.
    >>>
    >>> 3. My sending unit went out while the van was still under warranty, a very
    >>> unusual problem. Even though the dealer admitted it was an unusual problem and
    >>> shouldn't have happened, they wouldn't cover it under the warranty.
    >>>
    >>> 4. Various small things have broken, like the handle that adjusts the back of one
    >>> of the back bucket seats, has broken. All the cup holders are very flimsy and
    >>> several of them have broken. The plastic back of one of the seats just
    >>> mysteriously fell off. You can't plug certain things into the lighter sockets or
    >>> they will short and blow fuses, and multiple other problems. All of these
    >>> problems have occured before the van hit 100,000 miles. The gas mileage is
    >>> horrible. I'm lucky to get 15 miles to the gallon. Not even close to their
    >>> claims. Also, ever since my first flat tire, the out of balance light on my dash
    >>> has never gone back off. I've had new tires twice since then and it seems nothing
    >>> will keep the darn thing in balance. The dealer basically says, oh well, it's
    >>> just a light. I wouldn't worry about it. Also, the remote key entry never
    >>> worked. It hasn't worked since I got it.
    >>>
    >>> All I have to say is that I will never buy another Toyota vehicle. For a brand
    >>> that has been supposedly one of the most reliable and best built vehicles made, I
    >>> have been extremely disappointed. I don't feel the least bit sorry for or
    >>> concerned about the dealer. If others have had the problems I've had and can get
    >>> the dealer to cover some of their expenses, more power to them. I feel that I
    >>> paid top dollar for a very poor performing vehicle and will just stick with Honda
    >>> from now on. I've owned many Hondas over the years and never had any of these
    >>> problems.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman wrote:
    >>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS AND OTHER THINGS,
    >>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT ANY FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>
    >>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE, I AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING THAT OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I SEE IT.
    >>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY ONE DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU CHARLENE BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO
    >>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER HOW UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT MAY BE.
    >>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO IT ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A CHARLATAN, AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE CHEAP
    >>>> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME.
    >>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH YOUR TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE MORE YOU SAY, THE
    >>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman wrote:
    >>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE, I AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING THAT OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I SEE IT.
    >>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY ONE DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU CHARLENE BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO
    >>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER HOW UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT MAY BE.
    >>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO IT ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE CHEAP THEATRICS.
    >>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH YOUR TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE MORE YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I CHOOSE TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO IN
    >>>>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A YELLING MODE, TOO
    >>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 8/21/07, Charlene Blake wrote:
    >>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman wrote:
    >>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE BY CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE SUSPICIOUS THAN EVER
    >>>>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Are you implying that the Toyota owners are conning Toyota? I see it
    >>>>>> now...poor automaker backed into a corner by Toyota owner conspiracy!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna vans have a problem with STICKING sliding door locks.
    >>>>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>> Toyota has NOT issued a very important SAFETY RECALL for this problem!
    >>>>>> Toyota is therefore putting the Toyota owners and their families,
    >>>>>> particularly small children, at risk.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Now, if you want an open, public debate about this problem, I am happy to
    >>>>>> oblige. You are using all capital letters in a "yelling" mode. This is not
    >>>>>> necessary and is actually offensive to many.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The issue is does Toyota have a problem with the *sticking sliding doors* or
    >>>>>> not. If you can disprove the facts that the Toyota owners are providing,
    >>>>>> then please do so. The dealerships have admitted a problem with this for
    >>>>>> YEARS according to many internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Face it. Help the Toyota owners! The manufacturer doesn't need your
    >>>>>> protection, does it? OR, does it?????
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>> Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution

     
     

 
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