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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by v on 9/08/07

    Toyota must be desperate. If they
    have to hire thugs to beat down the
    truth from people who've been
    screwed making a purchase of their
    product. If they can't take the
    heat ... get out of the kitchen.
    Saloution! BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!


    On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    > Dear Miss Debbie:
    >
    > In spite of your feeble
    protestations to the contrary, your
    story is still a crock of
    > meaningless crap.
    > Anybody can post statements like
    you just did, make ridiculous claims
    about "I Have
    > Receipts", and then expect others
    to believe them.
    > That won't make any of such crap
    more beievable.
    > Perhaps some will believe your
    story, but I certainly don't.
    > If you're so convinced
    that "receipts" are proof,don't send
    them to me--- post them
    > here!! It's actually easier to do.
    > And make sure they're not just
    phonied up ones!!
    > I await your so called "receipts".
    (LOL!!)
    >
    >
    >
    > Otherwise your lies are on record
    > On 9/07/07, Debbie wrote:
    >> Mr. Scott,
    >>
    >> If you like, I can email you a
    copy of my receipt, dated today, for
    the FOUR door
    >> handles that I just purchased
    from the Toyota dealer in my area.
    I ordered them on
    >> the day I originally posted this
    message and they came in today. I
    paid $335 for the
    >> four handles and then will pay
    another $400 to my mechanic to
    install them.
    >>
    >> I have no reason to make up a
    story or facts. I'm just stating
    the truth about my own
    >> experience and you are very rude
    and presumptuous to call me a liar.
    I have
    >> absolutely no reason to lie and,
    in fact, since I had researched
    many, many vehicles
    >> and came to the conclusion that
    my Toyota would be a good buy, my
    initial compulsion
    >> would be to defend my decision.
    >>
    >> However, the vehicle speaks for
    itself and I have no other motive
    than to inform other
    >> people of the possible problems
    they could face if they make the
    same decision I did.
    >>
    >> I truly hope that if you are a
    Toyota owner, that your experience
    has been better than
    >> mine. If so, good for you.
    Either way, you have no place
    assuming that mine, or any
    >> other claims, are untrue.
    >>
    >> I can assure you that every
    single thing I said is true and
    100&37; accurate. This is
    >> the first time I have ever posted
    on a website like this and I have
    not posted
    >> anything else on this site or any
    other before. This is just an
    honest account of my
    >> own experience. And, by the way,
    I have never received any
    compensation of any kind
    >> from Toyota for the problems I
    have encountered. Although I
    believe that there are
    >> some major design flaws that have
    caused these problems, I personally
    have not
    >> benefited from any legal
    proceedings that have taken place.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 9/05/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    >>> "I am brand new to this
    conversation but just thought I
    would give an objective
    >>> opinion about my personal Toyota
    vehicle"
    >>>
    >>> That statement is about as
    credible as a guarantee of a lottery
    win!!
    >>> Debbie, you are just
    another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    >>> Your post is just so PHONY!!!
    >>>
    >>> On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>> I am brand new to this
    conversation but just thought I
    would give an objective
    >>>> opinion about my personal
    Toyota vehicle.
    >>>>
    >>>> After opting for a Toyota
    instead of a Honda back in 2003,
    when I bought my 2000
    >>>> Sienna, I have had nothing but
    problems with it. I bought if from
    the dealer as
    >>>> a "Certified Vehicle".
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. We have a mysterious "oil
    problem" that even our longtime
    mechanic can't
    >>>> figure out. The oil just
    disappears.
    >>>>
    >>>> 2. Also, all four of the door
    handles on my van are broken. I
    just got off the
    >>>> phone with the dealer to see
    about fixing them because now that
    all four of them
    >>>> are broken, only one of them
    allows us to even get in the van,
    and then we have to
    >>>> climb in and open all the other
    doors from the inside. A really
    annoying side
    >>>> effect when you are hauling
    around 4 kids all the time. By the
    way, it's about
    >>>> $300 each to fix them. Don't
    know what I'm going to do yet. It's
    hardly worth
    >>>> putting $1200 into my 6 year
    old van. The one door handle we can
    still open the
    >>>> van with is literally in
    pieces. We've just managed to keep
    it together because
    >>>> it's the driver's door handle
    and I have banned anyone from
    opening it but me for
    >>>> fear that it will just fall
    apart.
    >>>>
    >>>> 3. My sending unit went out
    while the van was still under
    warranty, a very
    >>>> unusual problem. Even though
    the dealer admitted it was an
    unusual problem and
    >>>> shouldn't have happened, they
    wouldn't cover it under the warranty.
    >>>>
    >>>> 4. Various small things have
    broken, like the handle that adjusts
    the back of one
    >>>> of the back bucket seats, has
    broken. All the cup holders are
    very flimsy and
    >>>> several of them have broken.
    The plastic back of one of the seats
    just
    >>>> mysteriously fell off. You
    can't plug certain things into the
    lighter sockets or
    >>>> they will short and blow fuses,
    and multiple other problems. All of
    these
    >>>> problems have occured before
    the van hit 100,000 miles. The gas
    mileage is
    >>>> horrible. I'm lucky to get 15
    miles to the gallon. Not even close
    to their
    >>>> claims. Also, ever since my
    first flat tire, the out of balance
    light on my dash
    >>>> has never gone back off. I've
    had new tires twice since then and
    it seems nothing
    >>>> will keep the darn thing in
    balance. The dealer basically says,
    oh well, it's
    >>>> just a light. I wouldn't worry
    about it. Also, the remote key
    entry never
    >>>> worked. It hasn't worked since
    I got it.
    >>>>
    >>>> All I have to say is that I
    will never buy another Toyota
    vehicle. For a brand
    >>>> that has been supposedly one of
    the most reliable and best built
    vehicles made, I
    >>>> have been extremely
    disappointed. I don't feel the
    least bit sorry for or
    >>>> concerned about the dealer. If
    others have had the problems I've
    had and can get
    >>>> the dealer to cover some of
    their expenses, more power to them.
    I feel that I
    >>>> paid top dollar for a very poor
    performing vehicle and will just
    stick with Honda
    >>>> from now on. I've owned many
    Hondas over the years and never had
    any of these
    >>>> problems.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman
    wrote:
    >>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT THERE
    ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS AND
    OTHER THINGS,
    >>>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME
    EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT ANY
    FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>>> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I
    SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE, I
    AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING THAT
    OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I SEE
    IT.
    >>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY ONE
    DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU CHARLENE
    BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND
    WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY AND DO
    ANYTHING TO
    >>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER HOW
    UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT MAY BE.
    >>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO IT
    ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A CHARLATAN,
    AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE
    CHEAP
    >>>>> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME, EVERY
    TIME.
    >>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY
    PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH YOUR
    TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY
    SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE MORE YOU
    SAY, THE
    >>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman
    wrote:
    >>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE, I
    AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING THAT
    OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I SEE
    IT.
    >>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY ONE
    DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU CHARLENE
    BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND
    WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY AND DO
    ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER HOW
    UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT MAY BE.
    >>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO IT
    ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A
    FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE CHEAP
    THEATRICS.
    >>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY
    PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH YOUR
    TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO
    SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE MORE
    YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I CHOOSE
    TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO
    DO SO IN
    >>>>>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT
    IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A YELLING
    MODE, TOO
    >>>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 8/21/07, Charlene Blake
    wrote:
    >>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman
    wrote:
    >>>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE BY
    CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE SUSPICIOUS
    THAN EVER
    >>>>>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT SOUNDS
    LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Are you implying that the
    Toyota owners are conning Toyota? I
    see it
    >>>>>>> now...poor automaker backed
    into a corner by Toyota owner
    conspiracy!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna vans
    have a problem with STICKING sliding
    door locks.
    >>>>>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY
    ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota
    BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>>> Toyota has NOT issued a very
    important SAFETY RECALL for this
    problem!
    >>>>>>> Toyota is therefore putting
    the Toyota owners and their
    families,
    >>>>>>> particularly small children,
    at risk.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Now, if you want an open,
    public debate about this problem, I
    am happy to
    >>>>>>> oblige. You are using all
    capital letters in a "yelling"
    mode. This is not
    >>>>>>> necessary and is actually
    offensive to many.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The issue is does Toyota
    have a problem with the *sticking
    sliding doors* or
    >>>>>>> not. If you can disprove
    the facts that the Toyota owners are
    providing,
    >>>>>>> then please do so. The
    dealerships have admitted a problem
    with this for
    >>>>>>> YEARS according to many
    internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Face it. Help the Toyota
    owners! The manufacturer doesn't
    need your
    >>>>>>> protection, does it? OR,
    does it?????
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>>> Toyota Owners Unite for
    Resolution

     
     

 
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