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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by v on 9/08/07

    No offense gramps looks like you
    and your friend randolph are
    busted!!!!!! END ..... GAME OVER


    On 9/08/07, Grampa.B wrote:
    > Hey Randolph::
    >
    > A word to the wise. That "V"
    doofus is one of the goons who keeps
    putting phony names in
    > Charlene Blake's crapped out
    petition.
    > Pay no attention to the creep.
    >
    > Grampa.B
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9/08/07, Grampa B. wrote:
    >> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    >>> Mr/Ms "V":
    >>>
    >>> Yes "V", I must agree with you.
    >>> The "Made in America"
    competition must be pretty desperate
    to hire goons to post stupid
    >>> remarks like you just did to
    defend BSers when they post lies.
    >>> "Buy American??"
    >>> You've got to be kidding!!
    >>> Stuff produced there now is
    worse than the Chinese crap they
    import because nobody is
    >>> willing to pay the inflated
    prices for "Made In America" things
    any more.
    >>> Truth hurts, doesn't it!!
    >>> BTW, when it comes to "thugs",
    you rate right up there with the
    rest of them!!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Toyota must be desperate. If
    they
    >>>> have to hire thugs to beat down
    the
    >>>> truth from people who've been
    >>>> screwed making a purchase of
    their
    >>>> product. If they can't take the
    >>>> heat ... get out of the
    kitchen.
    >>>> Saloution! BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott
    wrote:
    >>>>> Dear Miss Debbie:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> In spite of your feeble
    >>>> protestations to the contrary,
    your
    >>>> story is still a crock of
    >>>>> meaningless crap.
    >>>>> Anybody can post statements
    like
    >>>> you just did, make ridiculous
    claims
    >>>> about "I Have
    >>>>> Receipts", and then expect
    others
    >>>> to believe them.
    >>>>> That won't make any of such
    crap
    >>>> more beievable.
    >>>>> Perhaps some will believe your
    >>>> story, but I certainly don't.
    >>>>> If you're so convinced
    >>>> that "receipts" are proof,don't
    send
    >>>> them to me--- post them
    >>>>> here!! It's actually easier to
    do.
    >>>>> And make sure they're not just
    >>>> phonied up ones!!
    >>>>> I await your so
    called "receipts".
    >>>> (LOL!!)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Otherwise your lies are on
    record
    >>>>> On 9/07/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>> Mr. Scott,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If you like, I can email you
    a
    >>>> copy of my receipt, dated
    today, for
    >>>> the FOUR door
    >>>>>> handles that I just purchased
    >>>> from the Toyota dealer in my
    area.
    >>>> I ordered them on
    >>>>>> the day I originally posted
    this
    >>>> message and they came in
    today. I
    >>>> paid $335 for the
    >>>>>> four handles and then will
    pay
    >>>> another $400 to my mechanic to
    >>>> install them.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I have no reason to make up a
    >>>> story or facts. I'm just
    stating
    >>>> the truth about my own
    >>>>>> experience and you are very
    rude
    >>>> and presumptuous to call me a
    liar.
    >>>> I have
    >>>>>> absolutely no reason to lie
    and,
    >>>> in fact, since I had researched
    >>>> many, many vehicles
    >>>>>> and came to the conclusion
    that
    >>>> my Toyota would be a good buy,
    my
    >>>> initial compulsion
    >>>>>> would be to defend my
    decision.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> However, the vehicle speaks
    for
    >>>> itself and I have no other
    motive
    >>>> than to inform other
    >>>>>> people of the possible
    problems
    >>>> they could face if they make
    the
    >>>> same decision I did.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I truly hope that if you are
    a
    >>>> Toyota owner, that your
    experience
    >>>> has been better than
    >>>>>> mine. If so, good for you.
    >>>> Either way, you have no place
    >>>> assuming that mine, or any
    >>>>>> other claims, are untrue.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I can assure you that every
    >>>> single thing I said is true and
    >>>> 100&37; accurate. This is
    >>>>>> the first time I have ever
    posted
    >>>> on a website like this and I
    have
    >>>> not posted
    >>>>>> anything else on this site or
    any
    >>>> other before. This is just an
    >>>> honest account of my
    >>>>>> own experience. And, by the
    way,
    >>>> I have never received any
    >>>> compensation of any kind
    >>>>>> from Toyota for the problems
    I
    >>>> have encountered. Although I
    >>>> believe that there are
    >>>>>> some major design flaws that
    have
    >>>> caused these problems, I
    personally
    >>>> have not
    >>>>>> benefited from any legal
    >>>> proceedings that have taken
    place.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 9/05/07, Randolph Scott
    wrote:
    >>>>>>> "I am brand new to this
    >>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    Toyota
    >>>> vehicle"
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> That statement is about as
    >>>> credible as a guarantee of a
    lottery
    >>>> win!!
    >>>>>>> Debbie, you are just
    >>>> another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    >>>>>>> Your post is just so PHONY!!!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>> I am brand new to this
    >>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>> Toyota vehicle.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> After opting for a Toyota
    >>>> instead of a Honda back in
    2003,
    >>>> when I bought my 2000
    >>>>>>>> Sienna, I have had nothing
    but
    >>>> problems with it. I bought if
    from
    >>>> the dealer as
    >>>>>>>> a "Certified Vehicle".
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> 1. We have a
    mysterious "oil
    >>>> problem" that even our longtime
    >>>> mechanic can't
    >>>>>>>> figure out. The oil just
    >>>> disappears.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> 2. Also, all four of the
    door
    >>>> handles on my van are broken.
    I
    >>>> just got off the
    >>>>>>>> phone with the dealer to
    see
    >>>> about fixing them because now
    that
    >>>> all four of them
    >>>>>>>> are broken, only one of
    them
    >>>> allows us to even get in the
    van,
    >>>> and then we have to
    >>>>>>>> climb in and open all the
    other
    >>>> doors from the inside. A
    really
    >>>> annoying side
    >>>>>>>> effect when you are hauling
    >>>> around 4 kids all the time. By
    the
    >>>> way, it's about
    >>>>>>>> $300 each to fix them.
    Don't
    >>>> know what I'm going to do yet.
    It's
    >>>> hardly worth
    >>>>>>>> putting $1200 into my 6
    year
    >>>> old van. The one door handle
    we can
    >>>> still open the
    >>>>>>>> van with is literally in
    >>>> pieces. We've just managed to
    keep
    >>>> it together because
    >>>>>>>> it's the driver's door
    handle
    >>>> and I have banned anyone from
    >>>> opening it but me for
    >>>>>>>> fear that it will just fall
    >>>> apart.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> 3. My sending unit went
    out
    >>>> while the van was still under
    >>>> warranty, a very
    >>>>>>>> unusual problem. Even
    though
    >>>> the dealer admitted it was an
    >>>> unusual problem and
    >>>>>>>> shouldn't have happened,
    they
    >>>> wouldn't cover it under the
    warranty.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> 4. Various small things
    have
    >>>> broken, like the handle that
    adjusts
    >>>> the back of one
    >>>>>>>> of the back bucket seats,
    has
    >>>> broken. All the cup holders
    are
    >>>> very flimsy and
    >>>>>>>> several of them have
    broken.
    >>>> The plastic back of one of the
    seats
    >>>> just
    >>>>>>>> mysteriously fell off. You
    >>>> can't plug certain things into
    the
    >>>> lighter sockets or
    >>>>>>>> they will short and blow
    fuses,
    >>>> and multiple other problems.
    All of
    >>>> these
    >>>>>>>> problems have occured
    before
    >>>> the van hit 100,000 miles. The
    gas
    >>>> mileage is
    >>>>>>>> horrible. I'm lucky to get
    15
    >>>> miles to the gallon. Not even
    close
    >>>> to their
    >>>>>>>> claims. Also, ever since
    my
    >>>> first flat tire, the out of
    balance
    >>>> light on my dash
    >>>>>>>> has never gone back off.
    I've
    >>>> had new tires twice since then
    and
    >>>> it seems nothing
    >>>>>>>> will keep the darn thing in
    >>>> balance. The dealer basically
    says,
    >>>> oh well, it's
    >>>>>>>> just a light. I wouldn't
    worry
    >>>> about it. Also, the remote key
    >>>> entry never
    >>>>>>>> worked. It hasn't worked
    since
    >>>> I got it.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> All I have to say is that I
    >>>> will never buy another Toyota
    >>>> vehicle. For a brand
    >>>>>>>> that has been supposedly
    one of
    >>>> the most reliable and best
    built
    >>>> vehicles made, I
    >>>>>>>> have been extremely
    >>>> disappointed. I don't feel the
    >>>> least bit sorry for or
    >>>>>>>> concerned about the
    dealer. If
    >>>> others have had the problems
    I've
    >>>> had and can get
    >>>>>>>> the dealer to cover some of
    >>>> their expenses, more power to
    them.
    >>>> I feel that I
    >>>>>>>> paid top dollar for a very
    poor
    >>>> performing vehicle and will
    just
    >>>> stick with Honda
    >>>>>>>> from now on. I've owned
    many
    >>>> Hondas over the years and never
    had
    >>>> any of these
    >>>>>>>> problems.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT
    THERE
    >>>> ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS
    AND
    >>>> OTHER THINGS,
    >>>>>>>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME
    >>>> EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT
    ANY
    >>>> FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>>>>>>> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT
    WHAT I
    >>>> SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE,
    I
    >>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    THAT
    >>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    SEE
    >>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    ONE
    >>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    CHARLENE
    >>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND
    >>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    AND DO
    >>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    HOW
    >>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    IT
    >>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A
    CHARLATAN,
    >>>> AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND
    YOU USE
    >>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME,
    EVERY
    >>>> TIME.
    >>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY
    >>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    YOUR
    >>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO
    SAY
    >>>> SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    MORE YOU
    >>>> SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE
    BLAKE, I
    >>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    THAT
    >>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    SEE
    >>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    ONE
    >>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    CHARLENE
    >>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO
    GRIND
    >>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    AND DO
    >>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    HOW
    >>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    IT
    >>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A
    >>>> FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE
    CHEAP
    >>>> THEATRICS.
    >>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR
    EVERY
    >>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    YOUR
    >>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
    TO
    >>>> SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    MORE
    >>>> YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I
    CHOOSE
    >>>> TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE
    TO
    >>>> DO SO IN
    >>>>>>>>>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS
    ABOUT
    >>>> IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A
    YELLING
    >>>> MODE, TOO
    >>>>>>>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Charlene
    Blake
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie
    Chapman
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE
    BY
    >>>> CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE
    SUSPICIOUS
    >>>> THAN EVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT
    SOUNDS
    >>>> LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying that
    the
    >>>> Toyota owners are conning
    Toyota? I
    >>>> see it
    >>>>>>>>>>> now...poor automaker
    backed
    >>>> into a corner by Toyota owner
    >>>> conspiracy!
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna
    vans
    >>>> have a problem with STICKING
    sliding
    >>>> door locks.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY
    >>>> ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota
    >>>> BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has NOT issued a
    very
    >>>> important SAFETY RECALL for
    this
    >>>> problem!
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota is therefore
    putting
    >>>> the Toyota owners and their
    >>>> families,
    >>>>>>>>>>> particularly small
    children,
    >>>> at risk.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Now, if you want an
    open,
    >>>> public debate about this
    problem, I
    >>>> am happy to
    >>>>>>>>>>> oblige. You are using
    all
    >>>> capital letters in a "yelling"
    >>>> mode. This is not
    >>>>>>>>>>> necessary and is
    actually
    >>>> offensive to many.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> The issue is does Toyota
    >>>> have a problem with the
    *sticking
    >>>> sliding doors* or
    >>>>>>>>>>> not. If you can
    disprove
    >>>> the facts that the Toyota
    owners are
    >>>> providing,
    >>>>>>>>>>> then please do so. The
    >>>> dealerships have admitted a
    problem
    >>>> with this for
    >>>>>>>>>>> YEARS according to many
    >>>> internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Face it. Help the
    Toyota
    >>>> owners! The manufacturer
    doesn't
    >>>> need your
    >>>>>>>>>>> protection, does it?
    OR,
    >>>> does it?????
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota Owners Unite for
    >>>> Resolution

     
     

 
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