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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by v on 9/08/07

    I just got in here last week. I don't know what you are talkng about. I could give a rats a$$ about
    toyota. And no -- my only posts come from me. Don't put words in "my" mouth. You sound very intelligent
    to. Keep up the good work. After grammer school, shot for your GED.


    On 9/08/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote: (.) v is the nicest guy i ever met on a chat board! Do like he
    syas, buy American. Let the fruitcakes eat toyotas.
    > To "V"--Whoever You Are:--
    >
    > You seem unusually defensive of posts directed against Toyota when anyone questions their veracity.
    > It seems to me that many of these posts are artificial, in that when they appear, you are always
    > present to defend them.
    > That suggests you are involved in their being here in the first place, and may very well be planting
    > some, if not all, of them as a result of your perverse animosity toward Toyota.
    > Most of your comments are quite ignorant and foul mouthed.
    > If then you are as ugly as you are ignorant, you are a real loser.
    > Sadly, you don't seem to realize just how stupid you appear.
    > I suggest you should remain in the trailer park you belong in.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >> No offense gramps looks like you
    >> and your friend randolph are
    >> busted!!!!!! END ..... GAME OVER
    >>
    >>
    >> On 9/08/07, Grampa.B wrote:
    >>> Hey Randolph::
    >>>
    >>> A word to the wise. That "V"
    >> doofus is one of the goons who keeps
    >> putting phony names in
    >>> Charlene Blake's crapped out
    >> petition.
    >>> Pay no attention to the creep.
    >>>
    >>> Grampa.B
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 9/08/07, Grampa B. wrote:
    >>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    >>>>> Mr/Ms "V":
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yes "V", I must agree with you.
    >>>>> The "Made in America"
    >> competition must be pretty desperate
    >> to hire goons to post stupid
    >>>>> remarks like you just did to
    >> defend BSers when they post lies.
    >>>>> "Buy American??"
    >>>>> You've got to be kidding!!
    >>>>> Stuff produced there now is
    >> worse than the Chinese crap they
    >> import because nobody is
    >>>>> willing to pay the inflated
    >> prices for "Made In America" things
    >> any more.
    >>>>> Truth hurts, doesn't it!!
    >>>>> BTW, when it comes to "thugs",
    >> you rate right up there with the
    >> rest of them!!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Toyota must be desperate. If
    >> they
    >>>>>> have to hire thugs to beat down
    >> the
    >>>>>> truth from people who've been
    >>>>>> screwed making a purchase of
    >> their
    >>>>>> product. If they can't take the
    >>>>>> heat ... get out of the
    >> kitchen.
    >>>>>> Saloution! BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott
    >> wrote:
    >>>>>>> Dear Miss Debbie:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> In spite of your feeble
    >>>>>> protestations to the contrary,
    >> your
    >>>>>> story is still a crock of
    >>>>>>> meaningless crap.
    >>>>>>> Anybody can post statements
    >> like
    >>>>>> you just did, make ridiculous
    >> claims
    >>>>>> about "I Have
    >>>>>>> Receipts", and then expect
    >> others
    >>>>>> to believe them.
    >>>>>>> That won't make any of such
    >> crap
    >>>>>> more beievable.
    >>>>>>> Perhaps some will believe your
    >>>>>> story, but I certainly don't.
    >>>>>>> If you're so convinced
    >>>>>> that "receipts" are proof,don't
    >> send
    >>>>>> them to me--- post them
    >>>>>>> here!! It's actually easier to
    >> do.
    >>>>>>> And make sure they're not just
    >>>>>> phonied up ones!!
    >>>>>>> I await your so
    >> called "receipts".
    >>>>>> (LOL!!)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Otherwise your lies are on
    >> record
    >>>>>>> On 9/07/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Mr. Scott,
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> If you like, I can email you
    >> a
    >>>>>> copy of my receipt, dated
    >> today, for
    >>>>>> the FOUR door
    >>>>>>>> handles that I just purchased
    >>>>>> from the Toyota dealer in my
    >> area.
    >>>>>> I ordered them on
    >>>>>>>> the day I originally posted
    >> this
    >>>>>> message and they came in
    >> today. I
    >>>>>> paid $335 for the
    >>>>>>>> four handles and then will
    >> pay
    >>>>>> another $400 to my mechanic to
    >>>>>> install them.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I have no reason to make up a
    >>>>>> story or facts. I'm just
    >> stating
    >>>>>> the truth about my own
    >>>>>>>> experience and you are very
    >> rude
    >>>>>> and presumptuous to call me a
    >> liar.
    >>>>>> I have
    >>>>>>>> absolutely no reason to lie
    >> and,
    >>>>>> in fact, since I had researched
    >>>>>> many, many vehicles
    >>>>>>>> and came to the conclusion
    >> that
    >>>>>> my Toyota would be a good buy,
    >> my
    >>>>>> initial compulsion
    >>>>>>>> would be to defend my
    >> decision.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> However, the vehicle speaks
    >> for
    >>>>>> itself and I have no other
    >> motive
    >>>>>> than to inform other
    >>>>>>>> people of the possible
    >> problems
    >>>>>> they could face if they make
    >> the
    >>>>>> same decision I did.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I truly hope that if you are
    >> a
    >>>>>> Toyota owner, that your
    >> experience
    >>>>>> has been better than
    >>>>>>>> mine. If so, good for you.
    >>>>>> Either way, you have no place
    >>>>>> assuming that mine, or any
    >>>>>>>> other claims, are untrue.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I can assure you that every
    >>>>>> single thing I said is true and
    >>>>>> 100&37; accurate. This is
    >>>>>>>> the first time I have ever
    >> posted
    >>>>>> on a website like this and I
    >> have
    >>>>>> not posted
    >>>>>>>> anything else on this site or
    >> any
    >>>>>> other before. This is just an
    >>>>>> honest account of my
    >>>>>>>> own experience. And, by the
    >> way,
    >>>>>> I have never received any
    >>>>>> compensation of any kind
    >>>>>>>> from Toyota for the problems
    >> I
    >>>>>> have encountered. Although I
    >>>>>> believe that there are
    >>>>>>>> some major design flaws that
    >> have
    >>>>>> caused these problems, I
    >> personally
    >>>>>> have not
    >>>>>>>> benefited from any legal
    >>>>>> proceedings that have taken
    >> place.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Randolph Scott
    >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> "I am brand new to this
    >>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >> Toyota
    >>>>>> vehicle"
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> That statement is about as
    >>>>>> credible as a guarantee of a
    >> lottery
    >>>>>> win!!
    >>>>>>>>> Debbie, you are just
    >>>>>> another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    >>>>>>>>> Your post is just so PHONY!!!
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> I am brand new to this
    >>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>>>> Toyota vehicle.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> After opting for a Toyota
    >>>>>> instead of a Honda back in
    >> 2003,
    >>>>>> when I bought my 2000
    >>>>>>>>>> Sienna, I have had nothing
    >> but
    >>>>>> problems with it. I bought if
    >> from
    >>>>>> the dealer as
    >>>>>>>>>> a "Certified Vehicle".
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> 1. We have a
    >> mysterious "oil
    >>>>>> problem" that even our longtime
    >>>>>> mechanic can't
    >>>>>>>>>> figure out. The oil just
    >>>>>> disappears.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> 2. Also, all four of the
    >> door
    >>>>>> handles on my van are broken.
    >> I
    >>>>>> just got off the
    >>>>>>>>>> phone with the dealer to
    >> see
    >>>>>> about fixing them because now
    >> that
    >>>>>> all four of them
    >>>>>>>>>> are broken, only one of
    >> them
    >>>>>> allows us to even get in the
    >> van,
    >>>>>> and then we have to
    >>>>>>>>>> climb in and open all the
    >> other
    >>>>>> doors from the inside. A
    >> really
    >>>>>> annoying side
    >>>>>>>>>> effect when you are hauling
    >>>>>> around 4 kids all the time. By
    >> the
    >>>>>> way, it's about
    >>>>>>>>>> $300 each to fix them.
    >> Don't
    >>>>>> know what I'm going to do yet.
    >> It's
    >>>>>> hardly worth
    >>>>>>>>>> putting $1200 into my 6
    >> year
    >>>>>> old van. The one door handle
    >> we can
    >>>>>> still open the
    >>>>>>>>>> van with is literally in
    >>>>>> pieces. We've just managed to
    >> keep
    >>>>>> it together because
    >>>>>>>>>> it's the driver's door
    >> handle
    >>>>>> and I have banned anyone from
    >>>>>> opening it but me for
    >>>>>>>>>> fear that it will just fall
    >>>>>> apart.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> 3. My sending unit went
    >> out
    >>>>>> while the van was still under
    >>>>>> warranty, a very
    >>>>>>>>>> unusual problem. Even
    >> though
    >>>>>> the dealer admitted it was an
    >>>>>> unusual problem and
    >>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have happened,
    >> they
    >>>>>> wouldn't cover it under the
    >> warranty.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> 4. Various small things
    >> have
    >>>>>> broken, like the handle that
    >> adjusts
    >>>>>> the back of one
    >>>>>>>>>> of the back bucket seats,
    >> has
    >>>>>> broken. All the cup holders
    >> are
    >>>>>> very flimsy and
    >>>>>>>>>> several of them have
    >> broken.
    >>>>>> The plastic back of one of the
    >> seats
    >>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>> mysteriously fell off. You
    >>>>>> can't plug certain things into
    >> the
    >>>>>> lighter sockets or
    >>>>>>>>>> they will short and blow
    >> fuses,
    >>>>>> and multiple other problems.
    >> All of
    >>>>>> these
    >>>>>>>>>> problems have occured
    >> before
    >>>>>> the van hit 100,000 miles. The
    >> gas
    >>>>>> mileage is
    >>>>>>>>>> horrible. I'm lucky to get
    >> 15
    >>>>>> miles to the gallon. Not even
    >> close
    >>>>>> to their
    >>>>>>>>>> claims. Also, ever since
    >> my
    >>>>>> first flat tire, the out of
    >> balance
    >>>>>> light on my dash
    >>>>>>>>>> has never gone back off.
    >> I've
    >>>>>> had new tires twice since then
    >> and
    >>>>>> it seems nothing
    >>>>>>>>>> will keep the darn thing in
    >>>>>> balance. The dealer basically
    >> says,
    >>>>>> oh well, it's
    >>>>>>>>>> just a light. I wouldn't
    >> worry
    >>>>>> about it. Also, the remote key
    >>>>>> entry never
    >>>>>>>>>> worked. It hasn't worked
    >> since
    >>>>>> I got it.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> All I have to say is that I
    >>>>>> will never buy another Toyota
    >>>>>> vehicle. For a brand
    >>>>>>>>>> that has been supposedly
    >> one of
    >>>>>> the most reliable and best
    >> built
    >>>>>> vehicles made, I
    >>>>>>>>>> have been extremely
    >>>>>> disappointed. I don't feel the
    >>>>>> least bit sorry for or
    >>>>>>>>>> concerned about the
    >> dealer. If
    >>>>>> others have had the problems
    >> I've
    >>>>>> had and can get
    >>>>>>>>>> the dealer to cover some of
    >>>>>> their expenses, more power to
    >> them.
    >>>>>> I feel that I
    >>>>>>>>>> paid top dollar for a very
    >> poor
    >>>>>> performing vehicle and will
    >> just
    >>>>>> stick with Honda
    >>>>>>>>>> from now on. I've owned
    >> many
    >>>>>> Hondas over the years and never
    >> had
    >>>>>> any of these
    >>>>>>>>>> problems.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT
    >> THERE
    >>>>>> ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS
    >> AND
    >>>>>> OTHER THINGS,
    >>>>>>>>>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME
    >>>>>> EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT
    >> ANY
    >>>>>> FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT
    >> WHAT I
    >>>>>> SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE,
    >> I
    >>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >> THAT
    >>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >> SEE
    >>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >> ONE
    >>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >> CHARLENE
    >>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND
    >>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >> AND DO
    >>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >> HOW
    >>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >> IT
    >>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A
    >> CHARLATAN,
    >>>>>> AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND
    >> YOU USE
    >>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME,
    >> EVERY
    >>>>>> TIME.
    >>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY
    >>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >> YOUR
    >>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO
    >> SAY
    >>>>>> SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >> MORE YOU
    >>>>>> SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE
    >> BLAKE, I
    >>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >> THAT
    >>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >> SEE
    >>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >> ONE
    >>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >> CHARLENE
    >>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO
    >> GRIND
    >>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >> AND DO
    >>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >> HOW
    >>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >> IT
    >>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A
    >>>>>> FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE
    >> CHEAP
    >>>>>> THEATRICS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR
    >> EVERY
    >>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >> YOUR
    >>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
    >> TO
    >>>>>> SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >> MORE
    >>>>>> YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I
    >> CHOOSE
    >>>>>> TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE
    >> TO
    >>>>>> DO SO IN
    >>>>>>>>>>>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS
    >> ABOUT
    >>>>>> IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A
    >> YELLING
    >>>>>> MODE, TOO
    >>>>>>>>>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Charlene
    >> Blake
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie
    >> Chapman
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE
    >> BY
    >>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE
    >> SUSPICIOUS
    >>>>>> THAN EVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT
    >> SOUNDS
    >>>>>> LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying that
    >> the
    >>>>>> Toyota owners are conning
    >> Toyota? I
    >>>>>> see it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> now...poor automaker
    >> backed
    >>>>>> into a corner by Toyota owner
    >>>>>> conspiracy!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna
    >> vans
    >>>>>> have a problem with STICKING
    >> sliding
    >>>>>> door locks.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY
    >>>>>> ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota
    >>>>>> BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has NOT issued a
    >> very
    >>>>>> important SAFETY RECALL for
    >> this
    >>>>>> problem!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota is therefore
    >> putting
    >>>>>> the Toyota owners and their
    >>>>>> families,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly small
    >> children,
    >>>>>> at risk.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, if you want an
    >> open,
    >>>>>> public debate about this
    >> problem, I
    >>>>>> am happy to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> oblige. You are using
    >> all
    >>>>>> capital letters in a "yelling"
    >>>>>> mode. This is not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary and is
    >> actually
    >>>>>> offensive to many.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is does Toyota
    >>>>>> have a problem with the
    >> *sticking
    >>>>>> sliding doors* or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> not. If you can
    >> disprove
    >>>>>> the facts that the Toyota
    >> owners are
    >>>>>> providing,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> then please do so. The
    >>>>>> dealerships have admitted a
    >> problem
    >>>>>> with this for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> YEARS according to many
    >>>>>> internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Face it. Help the
    >> Toyota
    >>>>>> owners! The manufacturer
    >> doesn't
    >>>>>> need your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> protection, does it?
    >> OR,
    >>>>>> does it?????
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota Owners Unite for
    >>>>>> Resolution

     
     

 
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