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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by Curmudgeon on 9/09/07

    Got paranoia?

    On 9/09/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote:
    > To "V", aka "Curmudgeon", aka "Bubba", aka "Trailer Park Escapee":
    >
    > I see you have dropped another notch or two on the intellectual scale by posting some self serving
    > drivel allededly written by myself. (We also know you had very little intellectual capacity to begin
    > with!!)
    > Well, all you've done is made yourself look more foolish--and quite frankly, very, very stupid.
    > I now consider you in a category I would call "Aggressive Toyota Hater", or "ATH" for short.
    > So, up to now I might have just considered you as a troubled individual with a hangup about Toyota.
    > But your latest outburst simply confirms that you are hopelessly stupid, and just an ignorant "ATH HOLE"
    > with a big mouth and an attitude!! (Excuse the lithp!)
    > So "V", "Curmudgeon", or whoever else you choose to impersonate in the future----obviously you've
    > escaped from the wrong trailer park.
    > You should seriously consider moving into a psychiatric clinic for remedial therapy--full time!!
    > However, it is douptful therapy would do any good!
    > Have a nice day.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >> I just got in here last week. I don't know what you are talkng about. I could give a rats a$$ about
    >> toyota. And no -- my only posts come from me. Don't put words in "my" mouth. You sound very
    > intelligent
    >> to. Keep up the good work. After grammer school, shot for your GED.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 9/08/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote: (.) v is the nicest guy i ever met on a chat board! Do like he
    >> syas, buy American. Let the fruitcakes eat toyotas.
    >>> To "V"--Whoever You Are:--
    >>>
    >>> You seem unusually defensive of posts directed against Toyota when anyone questions their veracity.
    >>> It seems to me that many of these posts are artificial, in that when they appear, you are always
    >>> present to defend them.
    >>> That suggests you are involved in their being here in the first place, and may very well be planting
    >>> some, if not all, of them as a result of your perverse animosity toward Toyota.
    >>> Most of your comments are quite ignorant and foul mouthed.
    >>> If then you are as ugly as you are ignorant, you are a real loser.
    >>> Sadly, you don't seem to realize just how stupid you appear.
    >>> I suggest you should remain in the trailer park you belong in.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >>>> No offense gramps looks like you
    >>>> and your friend randolph are
    >>>> busted!!!!!! END ..... GAME OVER
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa.B wrote:
    >>>>> Hey Randolph::
    >>>>>
    >>>>> A word to the wise. That "V"
    >>>> doofus is one of the goons who keeps
    >>>> putting phony names in
    >>>>> Charlene Blake's crapped out
    >>>> petition.
    >>>>> Pay no attention to the creep.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Grampa.B
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa B. wrote:
    >>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    >>>>>>> Mr/Ms "V":
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Yes "V", I must agree with you.
    >>>>>>> The "Made in America"
    >>>> competition must be pretty desperate
    >>>> to hire goons to post stupid
    >>>>>>> remarks like you just did to
    >>>> defend BSers when they post lies.
    >>>>>>> "Buy American??"
    >>>>>>> You've got to be kidding!!
    >>>>>>> Stuff produced there now is
    >>>> worse than the Chinese crap they
    >>>> import because nobody is
    >>>>>>> willing to pay the inflated
    >>>> prices for "Made In America" things
    >>>> any more.
    >>>>>>> Truth hurts, doesn't it!!
    >>>>>>> BTW, when it comes to "thugs",
    >>>> you rate right up there with the
    >>>> rest of them!!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Toyota must be desperate. If
    >>>> they
    >>>>>>>> have to hire thugs to beat down
    >>>> the
    >>>>>>>> truth from people who've been
    >>>>>>>> screwed making a purchase of
    >>>> their
    >>>>>>>> product. If they can't take the
    >>>>>>>> heat ... get out of the
    >>>> kitchen.
    >>>>>>>> Saloution! BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Dear Miss Debbie:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> In spite of your feeble
    >>>>>>>> protestations to the contrary,
    >>>> your
    >>>>>>>> story is still a crock of
    >>>>>>>>> meaningless crap.
    >>>>>>>>> Anybody can post statements
    >>>> like
    >>>>>>>> you just did, make ridiculous
    >>>> claims
    >>>>>>>> about "I Have
    >>>>>>>>> Receipts", and then expect
    >>>> others
    >>>>>>>> to believe them.
    >>>>>>>>> That won't make any of such
    >>>> crap
    >>>>>>>> more beievable.
    >>>>>>>>> Perhaps some will believe your
    >>>>>>>> story, but I certainly don't.
    >>>>>>>>> If you're so convinced
    >>>>>>>> that "receipts" are proof,don't
    >>>> send
    >>>>>>>> them to me--- post them
    >>>>>>>>> here!! It's actually easier to
    >>>> do.
    >>>>>>>>> And make sure they're not just
    >>>>>>>> phonied up ones!!
    >>>>>>>>> I await your so
    >>>> called "receipts".
    >>>>>>>> (LOL!!)
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Otherwise your lies are on
    >>>> record
    >>>>>>>>> On 9/07/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Mr. Scott,
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> If you like, I can email you
    >>>> a
    >>>>>>>> copy of my receipt, dated
    >>>> today, for
    >>>>>>>> the FOUR door
    >>>>>>>>>> handles that I just purchased
    >>>>>>>> from the Toyota dealer in my
    >>>> area.
    >>>>>>>> I ordered them on
    >>>>>>>>>> the day I originally posted
    >>>> this
    >>>>>>>> message and they came in
    >>>> today. I
    >>>>>>>> paid $335 for the
    >>>>>>>>>> four handles and then will
    >>>> pay
    >>>>>>>> another $400 to my mechanic to
    >>>>>>>> install them.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I have no reason to make up a
    >>>>>>>> story or facts. I'm just
    >>>> stating
    >>>>>>>> the truth about my own
    >>>>>>>>>> experience and you are very
    >>>> rude
    >>>>>>>> and presumptuous to call me a
    >>>> liar.
    >>>>>>>> I have
    >>>>>>>>>> absolutely no reason to lie
    >>>> and,
    >>>>>>>> in fact, since I had researched
    >>>>>>>> many, many vehicles
    >>>>>>>>>> and came to the conclusion
    >>>> that
    >>>>>>>> my Toyota would be a good buy,
    >>>> my
    >>>>>>>> initial compulsion
    >>>>>>>>>> would be to defend my
    >>>> decision.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> However, the vehicle speaks
    >>>> for
    >>>>>>>> itself and I have no other
    >>>> motive
    >>>>>>>> than to inform other
    >>>>>>>>>> people of the possible
    >>>> problems
    >>>>>>>> they could face if they make
    >>>> the
    >>>>>>>> same decision I did.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I truly hope that if you are
    >>>> a
    >>>>>>>> Toyota owner, that your
    >>>> experience
    >>>>>>>> has been better than
    >>>>>>>>>> mine. If so, good for you.
    >>>>>>>> Either way, you have no place
    >>>>>>>> assuming that mine, or any
    >>>>>>>>>> other claims, are untrue.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I can assure you that every
    >>>>>>>> single thing I said is true and
    >>>>>>>> 100&37; accurate. This is
    >>>>>>>>>> the first time I have ever
    >>>> posted
    >>>>>>>> on a website like this and I
    >>>> have
    >>>>>>>> not posted
    >>>>>>>>>> anything else on this site or
    >>>> any
    >>>>>>>> other before. This is just an
    >>>>>>>> honest account of my
    >>>>>>>>>> own experience. And, by the
    >>>> way,
    >>>>>>>> I have never received any
    >>>>>>>> compensation of any kind
    >>>>>>>>>> from Toyota for the problems
    >>>> I
    >>>>>>>> have encountered. Although I
    >>>>>>>> believe that there are
    >>>>>>>>>> some major design flaws that
    >>>> have
    >>>>>>>> caused these problems, I
    >>>> personally
    >>>>>>>> have not
    >>>>>>>>>> benefited from any legal
    >>>>>>>> proceedings that have taken
    >>>> place.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Randolph Scott
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> "I am brand new to this
    >>>>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>> vehicle"
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> That statement is about as
    >>>>>>>> credible as a guarantee of a
    >>>> lottery
    >>>>>>>> win!!
    >>>>>>>>>>> Debbie, you are just
    >>>>>>>> another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    >>>>>>>>>>> Your post is just so PHONY!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I am brand new to this
    >>>>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>>>>>> Toyota vehicle.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> After opting for a Toyota
    >>>>>>>> instead of a Honda back in
    >>>> 2003,
    >>>>>>>> when I bought my 2000
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Sienna, I have had nothing
    >>>> but
    >>>>>>>> problems with it. I bought if
    >>>> from
    >>>>>>>> the dealer as
    >>>>>>>>>>>> a "Certified Vehicle".
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. We have a
    >>>> mysterious "oil
    >>>>>>>> problem" that even our longtime
    >>>>>>>> mechanic can't
    >>>>>>>>>>>> figure out. The oil just
    >>>>>>>> disappears.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Also, all four of the
    >>>> door
    >>>>>>>> handles on my van are broken.
    >>>> I
    >>>>>>>> just got off the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> phone with the dealer to
    >>>> see
    >>>>>>>> about fixing them because now
    >>>> that
    >>>>>>>> all four of them
    >>>>>>>>>>>> are broken, only one of
    >>>> them
    >>>>>>>> allows us to even get in the
    >>>> van,
    >>>>>>>> and then we have to
    >>>>>>>>>>>> climb in and open all the
    >>>> other
    >>>>>>>> doors from the inside. A
    >>>> really
    >>>>>>>> annoying side
    >>>>>>>>>>>> effect when you are hauling
    >>>>>>>> around 4 kids all the time. By
    >>>> the
    >>>>>>>> way, it's about
    >>>>>>>>>>>> $300 each to fix them.
    >>>> Don't
    >>>>>>>> know what I'm going to do yet.
    >>>> It's
    >>>>>>>> hardly worth
    >>>>>>>>>>>> putting $1200 into my 6
    >>>> year
    >>>>>>>> old van. The one door handle
    >>>> we can
    >>>>>>>> still open the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> van with is literally in
    >>>>>>>> pieces. We've just managed to
    >>>> keep
    >>>>>>>> it together because
    >>>>>>>>>>>> it's the driver's door
    >>>> handle
    >>>>>>>> and I have banned anyone from
    >>>>>>>> opening it but me for
    >>>>>>>>>>>> fear that it will just fall
    >>>>>>>> apart.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. My sending unit went
    >>>> out
    >>>>>>>> while the van was still under
    >>>>>>>> warranty, a very
    >>>>>>>>>>>> unusual problem. Even
    >>>> though
    >>>>>>>> the dealer admitted it was an
    >>>>>>>> unusual problem and
    >>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have happened,
    >>>> they
    >>>>>>>> wouldn't cover it under the
    >>>> warranty.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Various small things
    >>>> have
    >>>>>>>> broken, like the handle that
    >>>> adjusts
    >>>>>>>> the back of one
    >>>>>>>>>>>> of the back bucket seats,
    >>>> has
    >>>>>>>> broken. All the cup holders
    >>>> are
    >>>>>>>> very flimsy and
    >>>>>>>>>>>> several of them have
    >>>> broken.
    >>>>>>>> The plastic back of one of the
    >>>> seats
    >>>>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously fell off. You
    >>>>>>>> can't plug certain things into
    >>>> the
    >>>>>>>> lighter sockets or
    >>>>>>>>>>>> they will short and blow
    >>>> fuses,
    >>>>>>>> and multiple other problems.
    >>>> All of
    >>>>>>>> these
    >>>>>>>>>>>> problems have occured
    >>>> before
    >>>>>>>> the van hit 100,000 miles. The
    >>>> gas
    >>>>>>>> mileage is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> horrible. I'm lucky to get
    >>>> 15
    >>>>>>>> miles to the gallon. Not even
    >>>> close
    >>>>>>>> to their
    >>>>>>>>>>>> claims. Also, ever since
    >>>> my
    >>>>>>>> first flat tire, the out of
    >>>> balance
    >>>>>>>> light on my dash
    >>>>>>>>>>>> has never gone back off.
    >>>> I've
    >>>>>>>> had new tires twice since then
    >>>> and
    >>>>>>>> it seems nothing
    >>>>>>>>>>>> will keep the darn thing in
    >>>>>>>> balance. The dealer basically
    >>>> says,
    >>>>>>>> oh well, it's
    >>>>>>>>>>>> just a light. I wouldn't
    >>>> worry
    >>>>>>>> about it. Also, the remote key
    >>>>>>>> entry never
    >>>>>>>>>>>> worked. It hasn't worked
    >>>> since
    >>>>>>>> I got it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> All I have to say is that I
    >>>>>>>> will never buy another Toyota
    >>>>>>>> vehicle. For a brand
    >>>>>>>>>>>> that has been supposedly
    >>>> one of
    >>>>>>>> the most reliable and best
    >>>> built
    >>>>>>>> vehicles made, I
    >>>>>>>>>>>> have been extremely
    >>>>>>>> disappointed. I don't feel the
    >>>>>>>> least bit sorry for or
    >>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about the
    >>>> dealer. If
    >>>>>>>> others have had the problems
    >>>> I've
    >>>>>>>> had and can get
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the dealer to cover some of
    >>>>>>>> their expenses, more power to
    >>>> them.
    >>>>>>>> I feel that I
    >>>>>>>>>>>> paid top dollar for a very
    >>>> poor
    >>>>>>>> performing vehicle and will
    >>>> just
    >>>>>>>> stick with Honda
    >>>>>>>>>>>> from now on. I've owned
    >>>> many
    >>>>>>>> Hondas over the years and never
    >>>> had
    >>>>>>>> any of these
    >>>>>>>>>>>> problems.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT
    >>>> THERE
    >>>>>>>> ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS
    >>>> AND
    >>>>>>>> OTHER THINGS,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME
    >>>>>>>> EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT
    >>>> ANY
    >>>>>>>> FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT
    >>>> WHAT I
    >>>>>>>> SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE,
    >>>> I
    >>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND
    >>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >>>> IT
    >>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A
    >>>> CHARLATAN,
    >>>>>>>> AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND
    >>>> YOU USE
    >>>>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME,
    >>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>> TIME.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY
    >>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO
    >>>> SAY
    >>>>>>>> SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >>>> MORE YOU
    >>>>>>>> SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE
    >>>> BLAKE, I
    >>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO
    >>>> GRIND
    >>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >>>> IT
    >>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A
    >>>>>>>> FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE
    >>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>> THEATRICS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR
    >>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
    >>>> TO
    >>>>>>>> SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >>>> MORE
    >>>>>>>> YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I
    >>>> CHOOSE
    >>>>>>>> TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE
    >>>> TO
    >>>>>>>> DO SO IN
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS
    >>>> ABOUT
    >>>>>>>> IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A
    >>>> YELLING
    >>>>>>>> MODE, TOO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Charlene
    >>>> Blake
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie
    >>>> Chapman
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE
    >>>> BY
    >>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE
    >>>> SUSPICIOUS
    >>>>>>>> THAN EVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT
    >>>> SOUNDS
    >>>>>>>> LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying that
    >>>> the
    >>>>>>>> Toyota owners are conning
    >>>> Toyota? I
    >>>>>>>> see it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now...poor automaker
    >>>> backed
    >>>>>>>> into a corner by Toyota owner
    >>>>>>>> conspiracy!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna
    >>>> vans
    >>>>>>>> have a problem with STICKING
    >>>> sliding
    >>>>>>>> door locks.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY
    >>>>>>>> ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota
    >>>>>>>> BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has NOT issued a
    >>>> very
    >>>>>>>> important SAFETY RECALL for
    >>>> this
    >>>>>>>> problem!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota is therefore
    >>>> putting
    >>>>>>>> the Toyota owners and their
    >>>>>>>> families,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly small
    >>>> children,
    >>>>>>>> at risk.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, if you want an
    >>>> open,
    >>>>>>>> public debate about this
    >>>> problem, I
    >>>>>>>> am happy to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oblige. You are using
    >>>> all
    >>>>>>>> capital letters in a "yelling"
    >>>>>>>> mode. This is not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary and is
    >>>> actually
    >>>>>>>> offensive to many.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is does Toyota
    >>>>>>>> have a problem with the
    >>>> *sticking
    >>>>>>>> sliding doors* or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. If you can
    >>>> disprove
    >>>>>>>> the facts that the Toyota
    >>>> owners are
    >>>>>>>> providing,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then please do so. The
    >>>>>>>> dealerships have admitted a
    >>>> problem
    >>>>>>>> with this for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YEARS according to many
    >>>>>>>> internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face it. Help the
    >>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>> owners! The manufacturer
    >>>> doesn't
    >>>>>>>> need your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection, does it?
    >>>> OR,
    >>>>>>>> does it?????
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota Owners Unite for
    >>>>>>>> Resolution

     
     

 
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